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Summary
The chilling dystopian novel that influenced George Orwell while he was writing 1984， with a new introduction by Margaret Atwood and an essay by Ursula Le Guin
In a glass-enclosed city of perfectly straight lines， ruled over by an all-powerful “Benefactor，” the citizens of the totalitarian society of OneState are regulated by spies and secret police; wear identical clothing; and are distinguished only by a number assigned to them at birth。 That is， until D-503， a mathematician who dreams in numbers， makes a discovery: he has an individual soul。 He can feel things。 He can fall in love。 And， in doing so， he begins to dangerously veer from the norms of his society， becoming embroiled in a plot to destroy OneState and liberate the city。
Set in the twenty-sixth century AD， We was the forerunner of canonical works from George Orwell and Alduous Huxley， among others。 It was suppressed for more than sixty years in Russia and remains a resounding cry for individual freedom， as well as a powerful， exciting， and vivid work of science fiction that still feels relevant today。 Bela Shayevich’s bold new translation breathes new life into Yevgeny Zamyatin’s seminal work and refreshes it for our current era。
In a glass-enclosed city of perfectly straight lines， ruled over by an all-powerful “Benefactor，” the citizens of the totalitarian society of OneState are regulated by spies and secret police; wear identical clothing; and are distinguished only by a number assigned to them at birth。 That is， until D-503， a mathematician who dreams in numbers， makes a discovery: he has an individual soul。 He can feel things。 He can fall in love。 And， in doing so， he begins to dangerously veer from the norms of his society， becoming embroiled in a plot to destroy OneState and liberate the city。
Set in the twenty-sixth century AD， We was the forerunner of canonical works from George Orwell and Alduous Huxley， among others。 It was suppressed for more than sixty years in Russia and remains a resounding cry for individual freedom， as well as a powerful， exciting， and vivid work of science fiction that still feels relevant today。 Bela Shayevich’s bold new translation breathes new life into Yevgeny Zamyatin’s seminal work and refreshes it for our current era。
Reviews
Sir ImDahDude
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یادمه برای پیدا کردن این کتاب، سختی زیادی کشیدم！ چون حدودا دو سه سال پیش بود که خواستم این کتاب رو بخونم ولی چاپ‌تمام شده بود و پیدا نمی‌شد！تا اینکه حدودا یک سال و نیم پیش، نشر بیدگل با یک ترجمه‌ی عالی، این کتاب رو احیا کرد。بلافاصله پس از مطلع شدن، کتاب رو از دفتر رسمی فروش انتشارات خریدم و به کتابخونه‌ام اضافه‌اش کردم。و بالاخره قرعه به نامش افتاد و موفق به خوندنش شدم。اوایل فکر می‌کردم که نویسنده‌ی کتب، زامیاتین، برای نوشتن کتابش از جورج اورول و کتاب هزار و نهصد و هشتاد و چهار الهام گرفته، تا ای یادمه برای پیدا کردن این کتاب، سختی زیادی کشیدم！ چون حدودا دو سه سال پیش بود که خواستم این کتاب رو بخونم ولی چاپ‌تمام شده بود و پیدا نمی‌شد！تا اینکه حدودا یک سال و نیم پیش، نشر بیدگل با یک ترجمه‌ی عالی، این کتاب رو احیا کرد。بلافاصله پس از مطلع شدن، کتاب رو از دفتر رسمی فروش انتشارات خریدم و به کتابخونه‌ام اضافه‌اش کردم。و بالاخره قرعه به نامش افتاد و موفق به خوندنش شدم。اوایل فکر می‌کردم که نویسنده‌ی کتب، زامیاتین، برای نوشتن کتابش از جورج اورول و کتاب هزار و نهصد و هشتاد و چهار الهام گرفته، تا اینکه تحقیق کردم و دیدم خیر！ در اشتباه بودم！ زامیاتین یکجورایی پدر سبک پادآرمان‌شهریه！ :））مهم نیست که بخوام داستان کتاب رو لو بدم یا نه، چون دیگه کلمه‌ی پادآرمان‌شهری خودش بیان‌گر همه چیز هست！داستان در دنیایی اتفاق می‌افته که آدم‌هاش هیچ روح و هویت فردی‌ای ندارن！این آدم‌ها، همه چیز زندگی‌شون توسط حکومت مدیریت و کنترل و دیکته میشه。از جمله ساعات خواب و بیداری، نوع غذاها، ساعات غذا خوردن‌ها و حتی تعداد دفعات جویدن هر لقمه！مسیرهای رفت و برگشت به محل کار！تعداد دفعات رابطه جنسی！و تمام جوانب دیگه‌ی زندگی！در این دنیا، خونه‌ها از جنس شیشه هستن و هیچ فردی نمی‌تونه چیزی رو بعنوان راز، از بقیه مخفی کنه！تنها استثنایی که وجود داره، کرکره‌هایی هستن که در زمان برقراری رابطه جنسی و به مدت زمان محدود، پایین میان و فضایی نسبتا خصوصی رو برای صاحب‌خونه به ارمغان میارن！در غیر این صورت، افراد در این دنیا، هرگز چیزی رو نمی‌تونن از همدیگه مخفی کنن！نکته جالب دیگه، اینکه در این دنیا، داشتن روح، یک بیماری محسوب میشه！در این دنیا، کسی که احساسات داره، کسی که تخیل داره، توسط پاسداران و یا به اصطلاح پلیس‌های حکومتی شناسایی شده و با انجام عمل به‌روی مغز، از شر این احساسات خلاص میشه！داستان کتاب هم، در این دنیا جریان داره！ هیچ چیز دیگه‌ای از داستان لو نمی‌دم。。。از لحاظ نگارش و خوانش، کتاب کمی سخت‌خوانه، البته داستان سرراستی داره ولی خود ادبیات کتاب، سرعت خوانش رو پایین میاره。ولی به جرات می‌تونم بگم که از صفحه اول الی صفحه آخر کتاب، هیجان و کششی قوی وجود داره، که باعث میشه در حین خوندنش هرگز احساس سردی و سررفتن حوصله نکنید！ترجمه عالی، کیفیت چاپ عالی، اگر قطع کتاب هم بجای پالتویی، رقعی بود که دیگه نورعلی‌نور می‌شد！ :））من روی قطع کتاب‌های کتابخونه‌ام هم حساسم، بعله！ :））توصیه می‌کنم این کتاب رو بخونید。 اگر از کتاب هزار و نهصد و هشتاد و چهار خوشتون اومده، پس یقینا عاشق این کتاب خواهید شد。پنج ستاره کامل。。。 。。。more
Edward Ellis
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Wonderful！
Owlseyes
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https://www。nytimes。com/2021/11/02/bo。。。 https://www。nytimes。com/2021/11/02/bo。。。 。。。more
Dustin Dye
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We is a dystopian precursor to works like Nineteen Eighty-Four depicting totalitarianism run amok。 There are many similarities in the stifling worlds of the two novels and how the narratives play out。What I found interesting is 2+2=4 appears in both， but with nearly opposite implications。 D-503 in We accepts 2+2=4 as a perfectly rational statement in his society where "everything is awesome" because it is founded on cold， rational principles。 Winston Smith repeats 2+2=4 in Nineteen Eighty-Fo We is a dystopian precursor to works like Nineteen Eighty-Four depicting totalitarianism run amok。 There are many similarities in the stifling worlds of the two novels and how the narratives play out。What I found interesting is 2+2=4 appears in both， but with nearly opposite implications。 D-503 in We accepts 2+2=4 as a perfectly rational statement in his society where "everything is awesome" because it is founded on cold， rational principles。 Winston Smith repeats 2+2=4 in Nineteen Eighty-Four as a means of holding onto something self-evidently true in a world where the only truth is what the Ministry of Truth says it is。 This difference points to the main difference in the dystopian totalitarianism in both books。 We warns against the overreach of rationalism to the point it stifles the messy reality of human nature， while Orwell warns against might-makes-right authoritarianism。 （And Dostoevsky says 2x2=4， but 2x2=5 is also "charming" in Notes from Underground as sort of another extreme， where the latter equation is a rejection of the stifling reality of the former truism。 In this sense， Zamyatin is a mid-point between Dostoevsky and Orwell。）I found We hard to follow。 I'm not sure if this is a problem of the translation （or the crappy Kindle upload I read） or was an intentional feature of the prose to create a sense of distance between the narrator and the "alien" readers。 。。。more
Ricardo
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I respect it （1st dystopian book） more than I enjoyed。
RJ - Slayer of Trolls
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Happiness without freedom， or freedom without happiness。 There was no third alternative。This Russian dystopian novel， published about 100 years ago， was largely influential to the dystopian genre and directly inspired 1984 and other novels （similarities between WE and Brave New World have been oft-noted but Huxley claimed he was not aware of WE until after his novel was published， although some notable authors appear to disbelieve this）。 As usual， it's an examination of the clash between the rig Happiness without freedom， or freedom without happiness。 There was no third alternative。This Russian dystopian novel， published about 100 years ago， was largely influential to the dystopian genre and directly inspired 1984 and other novels （similarities between WE and Brave New World have been oft-noted but Huxley claimed he was not aware of WE until after his novel was published， although some notable authors appear to disbelieve this）。 As usual， it's an examination of the clash between the rights of the individual and the rights of society， played out to absurdist extremes。 Zamyatin was clearly influenced by events of the Russian Revolution but his ideas remain applicable and relevant today。 Because reason must prevail。 。。。more
Mohammmadreza Kavousi
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شاید این کتاب را بتوان به نوعی پدران دنیای قشنگ نو و یا ۱۹۸۴ دانست。 خلاقیت نویسنده در توصیف اشخاص و حس ها با اعداد ریاضی و شکل حروف قابل ستایش است。 دید نویسنده به دنیای مدرن و پیش بینی جهان پساصنعتی و آرمانشهرهای فاقد روح بسیار نزدیک به حقیقت بوده。 متاسفانه ترجمه چندان روانی از متن کتاب ارائه نشده اما کوتاهی فصول خواننده را در پایان رساندن کتاب یاری می کند。
Carl
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This review has been hidden because it contains spoilers。 To view it， click here。 A novel that captures the craziness and pain of being in love。 There is also good dystopian science fiction in there。A mocking， sharp triangle of eyebrows: “My sweet， you are a mathematician。 More than that， you are a philosopher of mathematics。 So then， tell me: what is the final number？”。“What is that？ I 。。。 I don’t understand: which final number？”。“Well—the last， the highest， the biggest 。。。”。“But， I-330—that is ridiculous。 The number of numbers is infinite; which final one do you want？”。“Wel A novel that captures the craziness and pain of being in love。 There is also good dystopian science fiction in there。A mocking， sharp triangle of eyebrows: “My sweet， you are a mathematician。 More than that， you are a philosopher of mathematics。 So then， tell me: what is the final number？”。“What is that？ I 。。。 I don’t understand: which final number？”。“Well—the last， the highest， the biggest 。。。”。“But， I-330—that is ridiculous。 The number of numbers is infinite; which final one do you want？”。“Well， which final revolution do you want then？ There isn’t a final one。 Revolutions are infinite。 Final things are for children because infinity scares children and it is important that children sleep peacefully at night 。。。” 。。。more
Nat
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I read We knowing that it inspired 1984 but I hadn’t expected there to be so many similarities！ I think I would have enjoyed We more had I not read 1984 first， but We definitely has the superior plot！ I found We to be dragged out at times and longer than it needed to be but the plot really is fantastic so worth the read！
Ann Yevtushenko
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Наши знаменитые "Математические Нонны": без них – разве могли бы мы в школе так искренне и нежно полюбить четыре правила арифметики？ А "Шипы" – это классический образ: Хранители – шипы на розе， охраняющие нежный Государственный Цветок от грубых касаний。。。 Чье каменное сердце останется равнодушным при виде невинных детских уст， лепечущих как молитву: "Злой мальчик розу хвать рукой。 Но шип стальной кольнул иглой， шалун – ой， ой – бежит домой" и так далее？ А "Ежедневные оды Благодетелю"？ Кто， проч Наши знаменитые "Математические Нонны": без них – разве могли бы мы в школе так искренне и нежно полюбить четыре правила арифметики？ А "Шипы" – это классический образ: Хранители – шипы на розе， охраняющие нежный Государственный Цветок от грубых касаний。。。 Чье каменное сердце останется равнодушным при виде невинных детских уст， лепечущих как молитву: "Злой мальчик розу хвать рукой。 Но шип стальной кольнул иглой， шалун – ой， ой – бежит домой" и так далее？ А "Ежедневные оды Благодетелю"？ Кто， прочитав их， не склонится набожно перед самоотверженным трудом этого Нумера из Нумеров？ А жуткие красные "Цветы Судебных приговоров"？ А бессмертная трагедия "Опоздавший на работу"？ А настольная книга "Стансов о половой гигиене"？Вся жизнь во всей ее сложности и красоте – навеки зачеканена в золоте слов。 Жутко от того как можно рационализировать и гиперболизировать такие страшные вещи。—-Тяжело придумать более «математического «персонажа чем Д 503， с его «круглыми ртами»， «треугольными иксобразный взглядами» и «острыми улыбками»。 。。。more
Dana Lahtionova
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Поражает год написания произведения и его современность。 Совершенно невероятно， что это не современный автор。
Bakertyl
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Maybe I missed something。 But I can't get past the narrator's switch from back-and-forth government lap dog to BDSM slave。 This book is a classic and I can see why。 Clever， at the time original， influential to several modern classics， I'm glad I read this book。 Despite the narrator's weird swings。 Maybe I missed something。 But I can't get past the narrator's switch from back-and-forth government lap dog to BDSM slave。 This book is a classic and I can see why。 Clever， at the time original， influential to several modern classics， I'm glad I read this book。 Despite the narrator's weird swings。 。。。more
Meyte Chan
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I always love journal entries type of books。 I went on a reading break but came back surprisingly with the book I had the hardest time reading and finished the remaining 70% within the day。 This book gripped！ The D-503 was so well developed as a character and his journal feels true to character。 Zamayatin has a perfectly crafted the use of symmetrical and geometrical imagery to describe the natural and emotional。 That really help create a nice tension as the story progressed
Suncerae
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The Good: The grandfather of dystopian science fictionThe Bad: Meandering plot; racist depiction of AfricansThe Literary: Chapters as journal entries; stark and disjointed prose that fits the protagonists' state of mindMathematician D-503 pours all of his energy into building the spaceship Integral and lives ardently for the OneState， which has perfected humanity and with the Integral plans to subjugate alien species with the beneficent yoke of reason。 The totalitarian society is devoid of passi The Good: The grandfather of dystopian science fictionThe Bad: Meandering plot; racist depiction of AfricansThe Literary: Chapters as journal entries; stark and disjointed prose that fits the protagonists' state of mindMathematician D-503 pours all of his energy into building the spaceship Integral and lives ardently for the OneState， which has perfected humanity and with the Integral plans to subjugate alien species with the beneficent yoke of reason。 The totalitarian society is devoid of passion and creativity， citizens live in glass houses inside a walled city for easy supervision， wear identical uniforms and eat synthetic food， and sex is only allowed with specific partners during the designated hour。The goal of the OneState is universal happiness， and the story of We is a precursor to George Orwell， Aldous Huxley， Ayn Rand， and Margaret Atwood， among many other seminal works in the dystopian genre。 Despite being written a century ago， most of the dystopian elements feel fresh， if over worn by the stories that have followed in its wake。 The book was deemed too radical for the mother country and is still not published in Russia。Written as a series of journal entries， D-503's allegiance to the OneState is shaken when he meets I-330， a tall beautiful woman with sharp teeth who harbors illegal ideas of revolution。 He falls for her when she performs music of the ancestors in order to demonstrate inspiration， that obscure form of epilepsy。 D-503 is emotionally moved but can only describe it as madness， torment， pain， and passion， before he recovers himself and nervously laughs it off。Obsessed， D-503 cannot work， eat， or sleep。 He shuns his former sex partner O-90 and his best friend R-13。 He goes to a doctor， who tells him that he's very sick， before donning x-ray glasses and studying his brain。 "Sorry to say， but it's serious！ Looks like you have developed a soul。" He wanders the city like a zombie， and every small encounter with I-330 only fuels the fire of his passion。 She gives him small tasks for the resistance， and he obeys， though a small part of him wants to remain loyal to his government， he is powerless against her。Compared to Brave New World， I find the plot more rambling， but I like that even the most devoted citizen， D-503， has natural barbarous tendencies that must be minimized and maintained with order and rationality。 I love the strong female leads as the catalysts for change， and I'm not surprised the translator's note mentions that Zamyatin's wife brought him into the fold of radical politics。 I love the ending。One particular note does not read well to modern eyes。 R-13， D-503's best friend， is an African with dark skin， and when he talks， "words spray out of him， splattering out of those thick lips"。 In the midst of D-503's obsession with I-330， he is outrageously jealous of R-13's association with her， and when R-13 saves I-330 from a mob， D-503 describes R-13 as "nasty and agile， like a gorilla"。 Ugh。I highly recommend this edition published by Ecco for the introduction by Margaret Atwood and the essay by Ursula K。 LeGuin， who considered We the single best work of science fiction when she wrote the review in 1973。 Every fan of science fiction dystopia should read this precursor to the greats we all know and love。 There is no final revolution！readwellreviews。com 。。。more
Joseflagerkvist
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Ahh， typiskt att hela 1984 finns i den här boken。
Stacy
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Роман-антиутопия， созданный уже более века назад， описывающий строй тоталитарного общество。 Под воздействием внешних сил， государства и уклада жизни жители уже безоговорочно верят всему происходящему。По информации многих источников， данный роман вдохновил на создание таких произведений как "О дивный новый мир" Хаксли и "1984" Оруэлла。 Роман написан в форме записей одного из жителей мира， имена в котором давно заменены буквами и цифрами и где регламентируется абсолютно все - время прогулки， часто Роман-антиутопия， созданный уже более века назад， описывающий строй тоталитарного общество。 Под воздействием внешних сил， государства и уклада жизни жители уже безоговорочно верят всему происходящему。По информации многих источников， данный роман вдохновил на создание таких произведений как "О дивный новый мир" Хаксли и "1984" Оруэлла。 Роман написан в форме записей одного из жителей мира， имена в котором давно заменены буквами и цифрами и где регламентируется абсолютно все - время прогулки， частота и продолжительность сексуальной жизни， а дети являются имуществом общества и не знают своих родителей， к тому же право рожать детей есть только у соответствующих определенным стандартам особей。 Общество， в котором "образование души" является болезнью。Роман движет знакомство главного героя с женщиной， которая является сторонницей и активной участницей революции。 Так ход мыслей героя меняется от безоговорочного принятия строя， до сомнений и даже помощи революционерам。 "— А какую же ты хочешь последнюю революцию？ Последней — нет， революции — бесконечны。 Последняя — это для детей: детей бесконечность пугает， а необходимо — чтобы дети спокойно спали по ночам。。。"Кульминацией всего становится открытое противостояние и "великая операция по удалению фантазии" как последнее средство， чтобы сделать людей роботами。Язык романа достаточно обрывочный и строение мира часто приходится дополнять лишь по обрывкам фраз。 Вероятно， именно стиль написания не позволил мне полностью насладиться работой， не затянул， так сказать。Тем не менее - подобные антиутопии отличное доказательство тому， что проблемы общества во многом схожи， не смотря на разрыв десятилетий и даже веков， меняется лишь форма сопоставления。 Форма массовой "добровольно-принудительной" защиты от творящегося в последние два года в мире хаоса имеет вполне схожие черты и проявления。 Думаю， что главное даже не то， за какой стороной стены мы находимся， а то， осознаем ли， что и там， на той стороне также люди。 。。。more
Shaghaf Awad
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3。5 stars。This book is sure a difficult read。 I could almost feel the mental barriers I hit every few pages。 There were lots of incomplete sentences。 Not sure if this was done on purpose， to reflect the circumstances and state of mind of the main character or if it was more related to the translation。 A long time ago， I decided to stay away from Russian literature， as it is too gloomy and too cruel for my taste。 This book was not an exception， but not in the usual "Russian" way。 The fact that th 3。5 stars。This book is sure a difficult read。 I could almost feel the mental barriers I hit every few pages。 There were lots of incomplete sentences。 Not sure if this was done on purpose， to reflect the circumstances and state of mind of the main character or if it was more related to the translation。 A long time ago， I decided to stay away from Russian literature， as it is too gloomy and too cruel for my taste。 This book was not an exception， but not in the usual "Russian" way。 The fact that this book inspired George Orwell to write 1984 was enough to convince me to read it。 。。。more
M Pierce
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“We” was a novel written by Yevgeny Zamyatin， highly regarded as “the first dystopian novel” and is what inspired future dystopian novels such as “1984” and possible “Brave New World” （although Huxley denies this）。What I loved about “We” was the contrast between the character’s individualistic desires vs。 the collective state。 The society in “We” is called “The One State” and every person is given a number instead of a name to eliminate individuality。 They are brainwashed that the collective nee “We” was a novel written by Yevgeny Zamyatin， highly regarded as “the first dystopian novel” and is what inspired future dystopian novels such as “1984” and possible “Brave New World” （although Huxley denies this）。What I loved about “We” was the contrast between the character’s individualistic desires vs。 the collective state。 The society in “We” is called “The One State” and every person is given a number instead of a name to eliminate individuality。 They are brainwashed that the collective need is more important than the individual need， （Do it for the greater good）。 This belief leads to the totalitarian state and individual desires are completely discarded in the name of collectivism。 There is also a leader who is more of a “God-king”。 He goes by the benefactor and he is regarded as holy。 They often say he is better than God because he is visible and comes to them less mysteriously。 Ultimately， Zamyatin seemed to predict the rise of communism and Stalinism in Russia， and unfortunately the fall as well。 If the Russian people had heeded his warning， maybe it could have been prevented。I highly recommend this book， and there is many great philosophical and religious thoughts that make you think。5/5 。。。more
Lerele
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[1924] No se le puede negar a Zamiatin ni la intuición ni la pasión a la hora de construir este diario pionero de la distopía o su análogo personaje “enfermo de alma” pero creo que como novela es bastante incómoda de seguir y ha sido ampliamente superada。
Miss A M Dyer
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How on earth does this book have such a high rating？？ If you take away the reviews that rave about it because it inspired Orwell’s 1984 or because it reflects Russia at the time of writing there really aren’t many positives leftFrom start to finish I was confused… it is written in the style of a journal of a madman … there is no context or explanation or background to any of it。 At one point I was convinced the characters were actually robots as they are just described by one feature。 And when O How on earth does this book have such a high rating？？ If you take away the reviews that rave about it because it inspired Orwell’s 1984 or because it reflects Russia at the time of writing there really aren’t many positives leftFrom start to finish I was confused… it is written in the style of a journal of a madman … there is no context or explanation or background to any of it。 At one point I was convinced the characters were actually robots as they are just described by one feature。 And when O was described by her round pink mouth I couldnt help imagining her as a sex doll。 If this book hadn’t have been so short I would not have finished it… now I have finished it the ending was not even worth the time I wasted on it 。。。more
Judy Lindow
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If you read one book this year let me recommend WE。 It is however， not an easy read。 It's a combination of interesting ideas， relevant to any totalitarian regime， and specifically our current global reset and mass psychosis。 It's a beautiful story of love， the soul and imagination; it's about revolution， socialism， segregated society， marching in lockstep， activism and much more。 The poetry will break your heart。 I felt like I 'got' about 25% of the book - and it was not the translator's fault - If you read one book this year let me recommend WE。 It is however， not an easy read。 It's a combination of interesting ideas， relevant to any totalitarian regime， and specifically our current global reset and mass psychosis。 It's a beautiful story of love， the soul and imagination; it's about revolution， socialism， segregated society， marching in lockstep， activism and much more。 The poetry will break your heart。 I felt like I 'got' about 25% of the book - and it was not the translator's fault - it was all me。 If there was ever a book I'd like to become an expert on， this is the one。Doing a little upfront research on translations may help you enjoy the story more。 WE has 4 or more translations that I'm aware of。 I'm thinking of doing a second reading with a different translator。 。。。more
Alexandr Kuznetsov
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Заметки человека будущего， который однажды испытывает целый каскад чувств， и с которым происходит жуткая история — душа это болезнь которую можно излечить。
Maziyar Yf
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یوگنی زامیاتین مهندس و نویسنده روس از اولین افرادی به شمار می آید که که در رمان ما به موضوع مدینه فاسده یا پاد آرمان شهر پرداخته است 。 کتاب ما که در سال 1921 و در ابتدای حکومت بلشویک ها و در زمان لنین نوشته شده را به سختی می توان اثری در ضدیت جامعه کمونیستی یا حتی پیش بینی حکومت پلیسی استالین دانست ، شاید ایده کلی او را بتوان مخالفت با جامعه صنعتی یا تمدن صنعتی بر آمده از آن دانست 。 کتاب ما شباهت زیادی با دنیای قشنگ نو آلدوس هاکسلی دارد ، اگر چه توصیفات هاکسلی و دنیای او به مراتب جذابتر و زنده یوگنی زامیاتین مهندس و نویسنده روس از اولین افرادی به شمار می آید که که در رمان ما به موضوع مدینه فاسده یا پاد آرمان شهر پرداخته است 。 کتاب ما که در سال 1921 و در ابتدای حکومت بلشویک ها و در زمان لنین نوشته شده را به سختی می توان اثری در ضدیت جامعه کمونیستی یا حتی پیش بینی حکومت پلیسی استالین دانست ، شاید ایده کلی او را بتوان مخالفت با جامعه صنعتی یا تمدن صنعتی بر آمده از آن دانست 。 کتاب ما شباهت زیادی با دنیای قشنگ نو آلدوس هاکسلی دارد ، اگر چه توصیفات هاکسلی و دنیای او به مراتب جذابتر و زنده تر از داستان ما است ولی هاکسلی هم در نگارش کتاب خود از زامیاتین ایده و الهام گرفته است 。 انسان هایی که روح ، فردیت و هویت خود را از دست داده اند و به سختی توسط پلیس در یک جامعه به شدت بسته کنترل می شوند ، آشکار است که هدف نویسنده نشان دادن تقابل میان افراد و حکومت و زمینه چینی برای تقابل نهایی ایست 。 ما کتاب سخت خوانی ایست ، زامیاتین تسلط فراوانی بر ادبیات غنی روسیه داشته و بارها در کتاب به آن اشاره کرده است ، به همین گونه او آرمانهای ایده ال کمونیست ها مانند برابری ، نفی مالکیت خصوصی را در جامعه نشان داده است 。 بدون هیچ گونه تردیدی نبوغ زامیاتین سخت ستودنی ایست ، او یک قرن پیش مفاهیمی مانند جراحی مغز یا جستجو در فضا یا زیستن در سایه حکومتی تمامیت خواه را پیش بینی کرده بود 。در پایان می توان گفت اهمیت کتاب ما در پیشگام بودن در مسیری ایست که به آثار بسیار برجسته ای مانند 1984 یا دنیای قشنگ نو منجر شده است 。 。。。more
Gareth Dicks
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Maybe this is the most realistic future？ All the absurdities and incongruities all fit into the same logical system。 Kinda horrifying， kinda cool， defo conceivable。 I don't know， I think I would like to give it a whirl for a bit。 Maybe this is the most realistic future？ All the absurdities and incongruities all fit into the same logical system。 Kinda horrifying， kinda cool， defo conceivable。 I don't know， I think I would like to give it a whirl for a bit。 。。。more
Sherron
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Thanks to NetGalley for giving me an ARC of this seminal dystopian story that was first published in the early 1920s。 This 2021 edition includes commentary by heavy hitters Margaret Atwood， George Orwell， Ursula K Le Guin， and its translator Bela Shayevich。 Atwood’s insightful preface in this edition puts important elements in We into context for today’s readers。 However， I recommend skipping this and plunging straight into Zamayatin’s work tabla rosa—and then come back to read any accompanying Thanks to NetGalley for giving me an ARC of this seminal dystopian story that was first published in the early 1920s。 This 2021 edition includes commentary by heavy hitters Margaret Atwood， George Orwell， Ursula K Le Guin， and its translator Bela Shayevich。 Atwood’s insightful preface in this edition puts important elements in We into context for today’s readers。 However， I recommend skipping this and plunging straight into Zamayatin’s work tabla rosa—and then come back to read any accompanying commentary。 In Yevgeny Zamyatin’s 1912 essay， “I Am Afraid” he notes that “true literature can exist only where it is created， not by diligent and trustworthy officials， but by madmen， hermits， heretics， dreamers， rebels and skeptics。” Zamyatin cuts out a big task for himself in We， as his protagonist/author is none of these things。 Rather， the scientist/engineer perspective of the protagonist makes it more difficult for a reader to empathize with him as an individual， which I find a very interesting conundrum that Zamyatin has created。 There’s some wry meta irony going on in this story。 We is written as the philosophical awakening of a rational， no nonsense rocket scientist named D-503， set down on paper as a memoir。 As a scientist， his language is rational。 He favors mathematical expressions， and he uses this language metaphorically throughout， such as when he describes his discomfort as a child when he first came across an irrational number or as an adult when he sees a poem about “two plus two” as evocative of the beautiful multiplication table or the “square root of negative one，” which serves as a catalyst to destabilize his world view。 Zamayin’s totalitarian state can be viewed through the lenses of any of several systems with rigid rules: not just mathematics， but also religion， government， or even as a noncritical “adventure for the child who needs syrup for the medicine。” We see the world of D-503 is one of uniformity and transparency。 Everyone works at the time time and relaxes at the same time， and you can be assured that your neighbor is doing the same thing， because the building walls are all made of a tough-as-steel transparent glass。 The only private time is for sex， which requires permission slips from the government and must be performed only with designated people and with curtains drawn closed。 The prose is a bit dry， heavy with symbolic flat characters， highly satirical， and coyly Victorian。 D journals about his girlfriend O-90 whom he affectionate nicknames “O” in reference to her rounded mouth， her baby fat wrist， and her receptive acceptance of him。 But soon he meets and falls in love with an irritating yet intriguing woman， I-330， （pet name “I”） whom he envisions as an X because the angular lines of her eyebrows and her nasolabia laugh lines meet to form an X。 Today， we may sign a love letter XOXO， but as a description of your lover， either description is horribly off-putting， But Zamyatin uses the letters as expressionistic （and maybe mathematical） symbols， “O” representing soft passive compliance， perhaps even “zero。” In mathematics， “I” is an imaginary number and an “X” a mathematical placeholder for an unknown value， perhaps standing for personal expression （as opposed to the state）。 And the “D” in the protagonist’s own name？ I cannot even guess; in mathematics， a “D” usually represented the grade I received。 The appearance of the new woman not only shakes up his love life， but his whole totalitarian world。 But in actuality， are these women just sidekicks？ Foils that enable him to grow？ Or are they， along with best friend R-13 the actual heroes？On one hand， he longs to give in to his passions， and on the other hand， ooh， he is ashamed of his atavistic hairy hands peeking out from his work uniform。 And his work？ The rocket he is building is designed to carry the message of OneState to the other planets in the galaxy。 His work， like everyone else’s is notably calculated according to Taylor’s rules of motion， which sadly to say， isn’t described—after all this is a Russian satire not a screwball parody。 In this Russian satire， OneState is as oppressive as Nurse Rachet and as kind as Florence Nightingale。 Seemingly agathokakological， it’s up to the individual how to take meaning from this book。 ;） 。。。more
just me
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Yevgeny Zamyatin’s 1912 essay， I Am Afraid /a> he notes that “true literature” can exist only where
Alex
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Странно читать технологическую антиутопию， написанную на столь отличном от современного уровне развития。 Ещё более сложно представить， насколько смелым были "предсказания" Замятина на 1920 год。 Интересная задачка Странно читать технологическую антиутопию， написанную на столь отличном от современного уровне развития。 Ещё более сложно представить， насколько смелым были "предсказания" Замятина на 1920 год。 Интересная задачка 。。。more
Mary
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This dystopia was written around the time that 1984 and Brave New World were also published。 However， it has never gained the popularity of the latter two books。 I thought I should give it a try but it was difficult to follow and I was never really clear how things operated in this particular dystopia。 It had some interesting ideas but it was too much of an effort to make myself read it。
Jason Blackthorn
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Holds up astonishingly well for a book I expected to be rather preachy。 Every character makes important choices， making them seem like real breathing people。 Far more compelling than you'd probably expect， and absolutely worth the read。 Holds up astonishingly well for a book I expected to be rather preachy。 Every character makes important choices， making them seem like real breathing people。 Far more compelling than you'd probably expect， and absolutely worth the read。 。。。more
Reference
google book https://www.google.com/search?tbm=bks&q=We
hathitrust digital library https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/ls?q1=We&field1=ocr&a=srchls&ft=ft&lmt=ft
The British Library https://bll01.primo.exlibrisgroup.com/discovery/search?query=any,contains,We&tab=LibraryCatalog&search_scope=Not_BL_Suppress&vid=44BL_INST:BLL01&lang=en&offset=0