Tribe
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- Author：Sebastian Junger
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Summary
From the author of THE PERFECT STORM and WAR comes a book about why men miss war， why Londoners missed the Blitz， and what we can all learn from American Indian captives who refused to go home。 Tribe is a look at post-traumatic stress disorder and the challenges veterans face returning to society。 Using his background in anthropology， Sebastian Junger argues that the problem lies not with vets or with the trauma they've suffered， but with the society to which they are trying to return。 One of the most puzzling things about veterans who experience PTSD is that the majority never even saw combat-and yet they feel deeply alienated and out of place back home。 The reason may lie in our natural inclination， as a species， to live in groups of thirty to fifty people who are entirely reliant on one another for safety， comfort and a sense of meaning: in short， the life of a soldier。 It is one of the ironies of the modern age that as affluence rises in a society， so do rates of suicide， depression and of course PTSD。 In a wealthy society people don't need to cooperate with one another， so they often lead much lonelier lives that lead to psychological distress。 There is a way for modern society to reverse this trend， however， and studying how veterans react to coming home may provide a clue to how to do it。 But it won't be easy。 Author BiographySEBASTIAN JUNGER is the New York Times-bestselling author of The Perfect Storm， A Death in Belmont， Fire， and War。 He is a contributing editor to Vanity Fair and has been awarded a National Magazine Award and an SAIS-Novartis Prize for journalism。 He lives in New York City。 - Tribe By Sebastian Junger （Paperback）
Reviews
Hsandlin
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While not exactly what I was hoping for going into this book， I still enjoyed it。 The book is stories of war experience mixed with psychology - all under the theme of being a member of a “tribe” and evolution。 If that sounds interesting， you should pick it up。 The book is very short， you could plow through it in a day if you wanted， but I genuinely think it changed my understanding of communities。 Additionally， the way the book is written is very skin-able。 It is a lot of two paragraph anecdotes While not exactly what I was hoping for going into this book， I still enjoyed it。 The book is stories of war experience mixed with psychology - all under the theme of being a member of a “tribe” and evolution。 If that sounds interesting， you should pick it up。 The book is very short， you could plow through it in a day if you wanted， but I genuinely think it changed my understanding of communities。 Additionally， the way the book is written is very skin-able。 It is a lot of two paragraph anecdotes， stories， and case studies。 If you’re not interest in the overly detailed experience （which doesn’t always change the impact of the point） it’s quite easy to skim past it and not have to back track to figure out what’s going on。 I wanted to give it three starts but the fact that it’s so concise and had a real impact on my world view forced me to bump it up to at least 4 stars。 If I was more interested in war I might have given it 5。 。。。more
Fritz
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Controversial to those who argue the author’s views are over simplified， I think you can’t help but to at least consider Junger’s theory here。 After all， it’s in step with budding research in similar fields （alcohol or narcotics addiction， for example） that we may be misdiagnosing PTSD as a disorder of trauma exclusively （as addiction is to the chemical hook）， rather than a one of recovery and community。
Russ Herald
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Shakes up my compacencyAn absolutely astounding book， describing very well both our need of and loss of the sense of tribe within American society。 Well worth the read - and a challenge to rethink one’s own life - how I do or do not aim to contribute to the world around me， and to give others the value I myself want to receive。
Jonathan Cavazos
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This book was short。I enjoyed this book。 I thought the author made some valid points。 He got me to think which I appreciated。
Marla
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There is a lot of truth in this book。 The ideas are well presented and worth the read。 With so much division in America， everyone could take a moment to pause and reflect of the consequences of always focusing on our differences， on individualism over sacrifice for the good of all， on our isolation from our neighbors。 On the contempt many have for their fellow countryman。 So interesting that in American we are very concerned about the poor taking advantage of society and its costs but ignore the There is a lot of truth in this book。 The ideas are well presented and worth the read。 With so much division in America， everyone could take a moment to pause and reflect of the consequences of always focusing on our differences， on individualism over sacrifice for the good of all， on our isolation from our neighbors。 On the contempt many have for their fellow countryman。 So interesting that in American we are very concerned about the poor taking advantage of society and its costs but ignore the the much more significant cost placed on our society by the dishonesty and advantages taken by the powerfully rich。 Our country has seen some devastating economic events from theses wrongs and increases in suicide when they happen。 （Ie housing market crash， etc） “Neither political party broadly or unequivocally denounce these men for their betrayal of the American people” and most suffer no consequences for it。 The “tribe” encourages both a culture of compassion for the vulnerable and discouragement of the unequal contributors or takers。 It gives a uniting purpose as it requires all to sacrifice/contribute a little but all benefit in return。 The tribe supports its protectors in war and welcomes them back to society when they come home。 On the other hand ， “Modern society has perfected the art of making people not feel necessary” 。。。more
Tom Giles
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Makes You ThinkPost January 6， 2021 I would recommend this small book as required reading so as to provoke thinking about why Trump followers did what they did。 This narrative also speaks volumes as to how we should honor and integrate our returning veterans。
Alex
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Very good， short snappy and to the point。 A subject that isn't written about enough in clear concise langauge， and a good contextualisation of the causes of increasing levels of PTSD。 Very good， short snappy and to the point。 A subject that isn't written about enough in clear concise langauge， and a good contextualisation of the causes of increasing levels of PTSD。 。。。more
Glen Retief
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Although short， this is a book that shifted my whole world view。 I'd always felt， dimly， from my own life experience and travels， that communally-oriented cultures had less mental illness than more individualistic ones。 This book musters the case for that precise thesis and draws in truly astonishing evidence to support it。 Although short， this is a book that shifted my whole world view。 I'd always felt， dimly， from my own life experience and travels， that communally-oriented cultures had less mental illness than more individualistic ones。 This book musters the case for that precise thesis and draws in truly astonishing evidence to support it。 。。。more
Jerel
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Listened to it twice in a row。 Just as good the second time around and I caught pieces I missed the first time。 This may or may not be everything required as we work to heal our communities， however large or small， but it's what we should absolutely consider。 Listened to it twice in a row。 Just as good the second time around and I caught pieces I missed the first time。 This may or may not be everything required as we work to heal our communities， however large or small， but it's what we should absolutely consider。 。。。more
Tom
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Junger discusses how western civilization has lost the concept of community， resulting in alienation， which leads to suicide and violence。 Community is created when people band together to support each other， and this comes about in times of disaster， war， or economic upheaval。 Case in point: after the UK suffered through the Blitz， its citizens voted in a Labor government that provided socialized medicine so as to benefit everyone。 Without a war or recession to rally around， after 30 years they Junger discusses how western civilization has lost the concept of community， resulting in alienation， which leads to suicide and violence。 Community is created when people band together to support each other， and this comes about in times of disaster， war， or economic upheaval。 Case in point: after the UK suffered through the Blitz， its citizens voted in a Labor government that provided socialized medicine so as to benefit everyone。 Without a war or recession to rally around， after 30 years they voted in Thatcher's party， the antithesis of a social safety net。 。。。more
Yerlan Akhmetov
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James Maiorana
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Worth reading。 It's short and quick。 People suffer for a lack of belonging。 It briefly expounds the benefits of tribal life and how disaster and hardships （specifically war） actually have a positive effect of bringing people together。 Worth reading。 It's short and quick。 People suffer for a lack of belonging。 It briefly expounds the benefits of tribal life and how disaster and hardships （specifically war） actually have a positive effect of bringing people together。 。。。more
Boho Beannie
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This was a little wordy but well researched。 I appreciated that he didn’t try and provide glib answers but just detailed various aspects。
Jens
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Good point， but a little too anectodical。 Nevertheless， it emphasizes the importance of connections in your life。 Good follow up for Dumbing Us Down that placed importance on the regulating role of a family in society。
Samantha
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I actually got halfway through this book and wondered why I am torturing myself so I didn’t finish it。 I have no idea why this is rated so highly。 The anecdotes Junger uses to make his cases are reeeeally myopic and problematic。 He makes some huge claims without really backing up his thesis。 Also it comes across as super white male cis/het privilege parade， almost bordering on men’s-rights-ish， and honestly there are a thousand better books out there about the power of belonging。
Beth
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This review has been hidden because it contains spoilers。 To view it， click here。 Makes some interesting points regarding the social benefits of war and hardship， but lacks any sort of productive suggestions。 Some of the conclusions made are tenuous。
Tommy Kowalski
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Solid read， but left me wanting more pages and examples。
Katie Esposito
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I enjoyed this book more than I was anticipating and agreed with the author on most of his points。 Similar to Sapiens， this books reminds us that we’re all human and we all share feelings and needs that promote healthy and functional life styles。 This was a super quick read and gives a quick glimpse to the perspective of a fellow human on how similar the heaviness of life impacts military much the same as it does everyone else
Ben
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Well written， full of very interesting， and somesurprising facts。 Some great ideas to chew on。Example: depression is good for survival， becauseif you don't feel like doing anything， you won'tleave the cave。 Well written， full of very interesting， and somesurprising facts。 Some great ideas to chew on。Example: depression is good for survival， becauseif you don't feel like doing anything， you won'tleave the cave。 。。。more
Roy Foley
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I don't normally do reviews but having read some others。。。I think no matter how masculine or inaccurate some parts of the book may be， Junger is saying not that we need hardship but that we need connection。 We're so busy dividing ourselves in any way imaginable in society that we are making ourselves quite alone。 We haven't evolved like this， we haven't come from a place where there's huge disparity， we continued to live through tribal equality not through greed and individuality。 I think he's s I don't normally do reviews but having read some others。。。I think no matter how masculine or inaccurate some parts of the book may be， Junger is saying not that we need hardship but that we need connection。 We're so busy dividing ourselves in any way imaginable in society that we are making ourselves quite alone。 We haven't evolved like this， we haven't come from a place where there's huge disparity， we continued to live through tribal equality not through greed and individuality。 I think he's saying our community/society is headed the wrong way and really hard times tend to stop this through social cohesion。 Personally I enjoyed the ideas behind it。 。。。more
Cyrus Charles
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A delve into the inner workings of the human mind and the price to pay for solidarity and salvationThe book takes a good look at where society is currently heading， how the human mind works， the importance of community， and how embracing our common shared traits and cause can help us unite。 Just read it！
Patrick Trester
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Before examining the details of the particular work， I want to make a few observations: firstly， Junger relies heavily on anecdotes， secondly， he grossly romanticizes history in a partisan way， thirdly， his judgements are very hypocritical， fourthly， his end is socialism （not in name， but practice）， fifthly， he writes like a wild man swinging his arms while telling people not to hit back。 Or maybe to hit back。 It's really unclear as conflict is the resolve of PTSD。 Accusation after accusation， t Before examining the details of the particular work， I want to make a few observations: firstly， Junger relies heavily on anecdotes， secondly， he grossly romanticizes history in a partisan way， thirdly， his judgements are very hypocritical， fourthly， his end is socialism （not in name， but practice）， fifthly， he writes like a wild man swinging his arms while telling people not to hit back。 Or maybe to hit back。 It's really unclear as conflict is the resolve of PTSD。 Accusation after accusation， the final demand is solidarity。 Give up your white religion and find common ground in your brother apes。Where does Junger begin？ The Christian white patriarchs of western society of course。 They are the problem of PTSD and suicide。。。 even though the abandonment of traditional values correlates with the rise of suicides and depression。。。 Ok， well what is Junger's end？ Companies have done more damage to society than Bergdahl's treason resulting in the death of several individuals。 Trans genders and the earth are our friends folk。 Obviously the solution is for companies to give handouts and start producing jobs for veterans。 We must punish those who don't work and force jobs on people。。。Oh dang！ This is totally communism！ Well he won't say it， but it is clearly his end， and religion is the enemy。 Well white Christian religion anyway。 Obviously the religion of native Americans is cool because that has an obvious anthropological and evolutionary basis。 As Junger argues， they were totally Egalitarian because wives were given the sexual freedom of having sister wives！ This is your typical regurgitated post modernism; offering little to nothing。 Saying "lets all be friends" while vilifying the Christian religion， misrepresenting history， and extrapolating specific scientific studies far outside of their scope and purpose。 。。。more
Cassandra
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Had some interesting information， pretty boring read， ended abruptly
Bartosz Majewski
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Short。 Insightful。 Anthropological。 Looks at human nature and our condition in this day and age through a new lense。 I did not like what i saw most of the time。 But i'm glad i looked。 Short。 Insightful。 Anthropological。 Looks at human nature and our condition in this day and age through a new lense。 I did not like what i saw most of the time。 But i'm glad i looked。 。。。more
John Maurer
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Powerful and eye-opening。 Thought provoking read on human behavior， mental health compared to a tribal society vs civilized society， unity during times of war and times of peace and the mental/physical burden of veterans suffering from PTSD。 A short read， I sometimes felt that the author moved around too quickly。 Perhaps the book needs to be longer or just organized somewhat better。 The author’s political views can seem a bit opinionated as well。
Nicki
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Interesting concept。 Makes one think about the US today and the unrest， cries on racism etc。 Perhaps we need to encourage a tribal concept to bring people together。
Benji Todd
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Good book。 I don't know why so many reviews up here are upset by the focus of subject。 I like the argument， and anyone who claims this guy is endorsing violence for the sake of mental health is missing the whole point。He's saying， "Look at this good development of social behavior that tends to show up under extreme distress，" but some reviews here are blasting him with， "You're really PROMOTING extreme distress？！ You're toxic。" Good book。 I don't know why so many reviews up here are upset by the focus of subject。 I like the argument， and anyone who claims this guy is endorsing violence for the sake of mental health is missing the whole point。He's saying， "Look at this good development of social behavior that tends to show up under extreme distress，" but some reviews here are blasting him with， "You're really PROMOTING extreme distress？！ You're toxic。" 。。。more
Shiva
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While Industrialisation and westernisation has provided progress and opportunities it has also made us increasingly isolated。 The book definitely is thought provoking and challenges our thinking。
Sergio Medina
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Interesting social commentary on the necessity of groups and their connection to purpose。 Junger makes his extended essay interesting by supporting his claims with recent research as well as compelling anecdotal evidence。 Quick read， you can finish it in a week。
SRC
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Strong perspective from a U。S。 warrior。 Not well sited because it's more based on his own thoughts and insights。 Begs to ask ourselves what happens to our communities in times of trauma。 Murder rates droped 40% in NYC for 6 months after 9/11 terrosist attack。Good to see someone holding liberals accountable along side conservatives， in fact says both platforms are integral to a society。 Yet current levels and actions of contempt are what would be considered treason in ancient cultures he says。 Strong perspective from a U。S。 warrior。 Not well sited because it's more based on his own thoughts and insights。 Begs to ask ourselves what happens to our communities in times of trauma。 Murder rates droped 40% in NYC for 6 months after 9/11 terrosist attack。Good to see someone holding liberals accountable along side conservatives， in fact says both platforms are integral to a society。 Yet current levels and actions of contempt are what would be considered treason in ancient cultures he says。 。。。more
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