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Traced: Human DNA's Big Surprise

Traced: Human DNA's Big Surprise

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  • Author：Nathaniel Jeanson
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Raymond Keith ，

I enjoyed the book and it is an easy read for being scientific。 Fascinating to look at genetics works through history。 Many surprises about our own past and history。 Lots of more research to do。 Look forward to what we can learn in the future。 Another nail in the coffin of evolutionary time scales- another one of many。 Would give it a 4。5 as I do not think it is quite a 5， so went with 4 stars。

Daniel Stern ，

I’m an evolutionary biologist and pay close attention to the work that comes out of the major creationist ministries， such as Answers in Genesis， where the author， Dr。 Nathaniel Jeanson， is employed。 “Traced: Human DNA’s Big Surprise” Dr。 Jeansons’s new book。 In Traced， Dr。 Jeanson uses Y-chromosome haplotypes to argue that the Y chromosome supports a Young Earth history， specifically the AiG version。His argument works like this:1。 Establish a Y-chromosome mutation rate based pedigree studies to I’m an evolutionary biologist and pay close attention to the work that comes out of the major creationist ministries， such as Answers in Genesis， where the author， Dr。 Nathaniel Jeanson， is employed。 “Traced: Human DNA’s Big Surprise” Dr。 Jeansons’s new book。 In Traced， Dr。 Jeanson uses Y-chromosome haplotypes to argue that the Y chromosome supports a Young Earth history， specifically the AiG version。His argument works like this:1。 Establish a Y-chromosome mutation rate based pedigree studies to calculate a Y-chromosome time to most recent common ancestor （TMRCA） approximately 4500 years ago。 2。 Reinterpret the Y-chromosome phylogeny and chronology based on this earlier TMRCA。 3。 Correlate historical events， like migrations， to nodes in the Y-chromosome phylogeny。 4。 Overlay the Y-chromosome phylogeny onto the pedigree for Noah and his sons derived from Genesis。 5。 Do （3） for Biblical events （e。g。 the Flood， Babel， etc。）6。 Claim you rewrote the history of humanity and confirmed the AiG interpretation of Genesis。 There are significant problems with the case Jeanson makes。 The first， which underlies much of his analysis， is that he treats genealogy and phylogeny as interchangeable。 They are not interchangeable。 Genealogy is the history of individuals and familial relationships。 Phylogeny is the evolutionary history of groups: populations， species， etc。 A phylogenetic tree may superficially look like a family tree， but all those lines and branch points represent populations， not individuals。 This is an extremely basic error。 There are additional problems with each step of the case he makes。 In terms of calculating the Y-TMRCA （that’s time to most recent common ancestor）， he uses single-generation pedigree-based mutation rates rather than long-term substitution rates， which is not a valid technique， since many mutations are lost from populations due to natural selection and genetic drift。 He even references a couple of studies that indicate the consensus date of 200-300kya for the Y-MRCA， but dismisses them as low-quality， and ignores that there are many， many more such studies。 He is constrained in an extremely narrow timespan for much of the Y-chromosome branching due to its claimed occurrence after Noah’s Flood （~4500 years ago） and running up against well-documented， recorded human history （he ignores that Egyptian history spans the Flood）。 In correlating his revised node dates on the Y-chromosome phylogeny with historical events， he employs extremely amateurish “analysis”， such as “the ancestral population for sister haplogroups existed along the line between the geographic homeland for the derived groups， and the descendants migrated in opposite directions”。 I’m not exaggerating; this is how he explains how and where E1b1a and E1b1b descended from E1b1。 He also ignores inconvenient data that refute his model。 For example， Jeanson claims haplotype R1b arrived in Europe between 700 and 1400 CE， and specifically in Italy in the 14- or 1500s。 However， we have DNA from a stone age burial in northern Italy dated to about 14，000 years ago， and that individual was R1b。 Even if we take Jeanson’s young-earth timeline at face value， a stone age specimen would be pretty close to the flood， about 4kya， which also directly invalidates his model。 To overlay the Y-chromosome phylogeny （with incorrect new dates incorrectly correlated to historical events） with the pedigree of Noah and his sons and their descendants derived from Genesis， Jeanson egregiously acts as though a phylogenetic tree and a pedigree are interchangeable， treating nodes on the phylogeny as specific individuals rather than populations。 And finally， he correlates the haplotypes on the phylogeny （now incorrectly overlayed with Noah’s family tree） with Biblical groups and events。 That’s how Jeanson rewrites the history of humanity。There’s another serious issue Jeanson ignores entire: Neanderthals。 Neanderthals interbred with Homo sapiens。 Most YECs have Neanderthals （and Denisovans） as descendants of Adam and Eve， living post-flood。 This means that Noah is also *their* Y-MRCA。 The problem is that we have Neanderthal genomes， and their Y chromosomes are highly divergent。 This necessarily pushes the MRCA back far beyond the YEC timeline， even using Jeanson’s incorrect mutation rates。 Jeanson completely ignores these data that directly refute his model。 So Traced doesn’t do what we’re told it does。 It’s too full of basic errors and shoddy analysis。 It’s not designed to convince real biologists that AiG is actually right。 And I don’t even think it’s designed to convince non-YECs， Christian or not， that YEC is right。 I think this is designed to reassure people already on board with AiG’s version of Genesis that they have “science” to back up their beliefs。 It’s to make a subset of YECs feel good， and not much more。 There are too many errors， basic， obvious errors， for anything else。 。。。more

Tim Dugan ，

A bit long winded and unfocused But when the author starts treating the story of Noah as a valid basis for a work on genetics， sorry， that’s just BSI’m still unclear what “the big surprise” is supposed to be

Tim Peterson ，

This book was fascinating to read and I hope Nathaniel continues his research in the DNA of man kind。 This book provides so many facts and details that it makes it hard to keep it all straight， but this is solved by providing short， precise summaries at the end of each chapter explaining what that chapter just revealed。 I would love to see more info on this topic as more research is done and revelations made。

Laurie ，

Traced is fascinating。 It makes me want to get my family members to have their Y chromosome testing done。

Royce Ratterman ，

A work featuring extensive， and often technical， DNA language and DNA/Haplogroup-based migration research findings。 "Genetics has taken this story and turned it upside down。" A good source if you are interested in the topic and/or need background details for school， court cases， critical thinking， etc。 This work also contains other interesting historical information which highlights the technical side of this book's content， including sufficient details on Italian Y chromosome haplogroups; we al A work featuring extensive， and often technical， DNA language and DNA/Haplogroup-based migration research findings。 "Genetics has taken this story and turned it upside down。" A good source if you are interested in the topic and/or need background details for school， court cases， critical thinking， etc。 This work also contains other interesting historical information which highlights the technical side of this book's content， including sufficient details on Italian Y chromosome haplogroups; we also read information concerning the "famous Scottish explorer and missionary， David Livingstone， in a book published in 1857， memorialized his encounter with Victoria Falls。 While he modestly confessed to being the first European to witness the site， his discovery may have been much more far-reaching。 It is likely that he was， not just the first European， but the first person outside of sub-Saharan Africa to see the Falls。 Thousands of years earlier and about 3，000 miles to the north， the Pharaohs made no mention of Victoria Falls。" 'Color Plate' instructive illustrations abound。Massive cultures and large populations throughout Central and South America flourished， as we have observed from countless archaeological excavations， including extensive Radar and LIDAR data: "The pre-Columbian world was populous — especially in regions thought to have been otherwise untouched wilderness， such as the Amazon。。。 （where the） Jungles in the Americas have also buried the evidence of earlier political activity。。。 archaeologists may misinterpret history by not considering all lines of evidence available。。。 How does this genetic history align with the pre-Columbian history of the Americas？ In short， it rewrites it。。。 Primitive appearances can belie complex histories。"This work and its appendixes， as well as current archaeological research examinations and early explorations， dispels the former mythical science and fantasy-fiction historical speculations which dominated the 'accounts' of the near past。 "This book has identified only a handful of lineages from the innumerable people groups of history。"If you possess your own DNA sequencing information， "you can use Color Plate 235 as a guide to figure out your history。 Color Plate 235 gives you a quick overview of your history， and then points you to the relevant chapters where you can dig deeper。" I found this fairly easy once I included an internet search for information displayed on my DNA sequencing chart。- Excerpts:"Trees of survivors don't have branches that lead to peoples who went extinct。 They also don't reveal every instance of population growth。 When populations decline， the number of branches on the family tree declines。""The second major forced African diaspora was the Islamic slave trade。 This lesser-known slave trade differed from the Trans-Atlantic on nearly every point — except in sheer numbers。4 In total， around 11。5 million Africans were taken from their homes and shipped to faraway Muslim lands over the duration of this foul practice。 The Islamic slave trade lasted much longer than the Trans-Atlantic。 It didn't begin in the a。d。 1500s。 Instead， it commenced in the a。d。 600s and lasted into the 1800s。""When Genghis Khan subjugated a people group， he would enlist the soldiers from the conquered peoples in his own army。 But not as an ethnically distinct subdivision。 Instead， he would deliberately divide the conquered soldiers among his military branches to strip these conquered people of their ethnic loyalties and thereby turning their loyalties instead to him。 As a result， in one instance， Khan's commander Muqali led a 100，000-strong troop in which 77% were not ethnically Mongol。""Effectively， in the Americas， mainstream genetics plays second fiddle to mainstream archaeology。 Mainstream science doesn't use genetics as an independent check on archaeology。 Instead， it assumes the archaeology-based chronology to be correct， and then stretches a sequence of genetic events over it。""The trouble with this explanation is that the overall timeframe doesn't fit genetics。 The rate at which copying errors are introduced into the Y chromosome is much too fast to support a narrative spanning hundreds of thousands of years， let alone millions of years。""In a perfect world， we would have access to DNA from people all throughout history。 In the real world， however， we usually reconstruct our family trees based on the DNA from living people。 Living people are the survivors of the rises and falls in human population sizes over the millennia。 Their DNA-based family tree reflects the minimum human population size over the years。"* Another related work that may be of interest to you:-The Discovery of the Amazon According to the Account of Friar Gaspar de Carvajal and Other Documents， Gaspar de Carvajal， American Geographical Society， 1934 。。。more

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