Jerusalem: Chronicles from the Holy City
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- Author：Guy Delisle
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Summary
Guy Delisle expertly lays the groundwork for a cultural road map of contemporary Jerusalem， utilizing the classic stranger-in-a-strange-land point of view that made his other books， Pyongyang， Shenzhen， and Burma Chronicles， required reading for understanding what daily life is like in cities few are able to travel to。 In Jerusalem: Chronicles from the Holy City， Delisle explores the complexities of a city that represents so much to so many。 He eloquently examines the impact of the conflict on the lives of people on both sides of the wall while drolly recounting the quotidian: checkpoints， traffic jams， and holidays。 When observing the Christian， Jewish， and Muslim populations that call Jerusalem home， Delisle's drawn line is both sensitive and fair， assuming nothing and drawing everything。 Jerusalem showcases once more Delisle's mastery of the travelogue。
Reviews
Saeed Irani
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ایکاش توضیحات اضافه آخر کتاب ، در ترجمه فارسی نمیومد。
ElPedro
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Izrael a Palestina - země apartheidu a segregace。 Zdi， linie， checkpointy， kontroly， povolení。。。 Smutek。
Karen
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I have leafed through a number of Guy Delisle's books before， but this is the first one I've read cover to cover。 I've been to Jerusalem a couple of times， though not for many years， and many years before the events in this book。 He spent a year there with his family （his wife worked for MSF）， and the book details that stay。 It was a turbulent time in Israel -- though when is it not a turbulent time in that country？ Delisle paints a stark yet loving portrait of a city -- and a country -- that li I have leafed through a number of Guy Delisle's books before， but this is the first one I've read cover to cover。 I've been to Jerusalem a couple of times， though not for many years， and many years before the events in this book。 He spent a year there with his family （his wife worked for MSF）， and the book details that stay。 It was a turbulent time in Israel -- though when is it not a turbulent time in that country？ Delisle paints a stark yet loving portrait of a city -- and a country -- that lives constantly in the shadow of separation， alienation， and conflict， yet manages to be a vibrant place full of passionate， funny， smart people， who are totally aware of their surroundings and situations。 I've always been struck by the many contradictions in Israeli history and society， and this is a terrific illustration （literally and figuratively） of that complicated place， as well as the author's own journey as a father and an artist。 。。。more
J。T。
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I've read every one of Guy Delisle's travelogue memoirs （I think？） and always enjoy them。 His family moves to Israel for a couple of years （his wife works with a humanitarian organization）， and he's left mostly taking care of their two young kids， sketching and trying to find time to work on unidentified projects （possibly this very book）。 Jerusalem is largely about his impression of Israel， how it functions with constant animosity between the Jews and Muslims （and， to a lesser extent， other rel I've read every one of Guy Delisle's travelogue memoirs （I think？） and always enjoy them。 His family moves to Israel for a couple of years （his wife works with a humanitarian organization）， and he's left mostly taking care of their two young kids， sketching and trying to find time to work on unidentified projects （possibly this very book）。 Jerusalem is largely about his impression of Israel， how it functions with constant animosity between the Jews and Muslims （and， to a lesser extent， other religious people） who live there。 Palestinians are denied access to areas， there are constant checkpoints to deal with， Jewish settlers claiming land， etc。 As with his other books， Delisle presents his impressions through a series of vignettes， mostly focused on the mundane， like his attempts to sketch interesting architecture （including the wall） being constantly thwarted by overzealous soldiers， or trying to find somewhere for his kids to play。 One of the aspects of Delisle's form of journalism that I like is its open-endedness。 Not every vignette has a clear ending or even point。 It's almost the opposite of didactic。 You can usually suss out his viewpoint， but he is mostly just reporting on what he saw or heard。 Again， as with his other books， I did learn about the culture there。 One of the most startling passages involved Orthodox Jews getting absolutely hammered in accordance with the Torah。 There's a sense of humor throughout Delisle's books that I love （reminds me quite a bit of Lewis Trondheim's）。 。。。more
Nate
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Delisle is a master at telling about his experience living in a complicated city without passing judgement or telling the readers what to think。 This is a really valuable contribution to this difficult issue。
Prashanth
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Moving， insightful and quirky in equal measure， Guy Delisle's account of a year spent living on the frontier of one of the world's most restive geopolitical hotspots provides glimpses of lives far removed from the ones most readers of this book might lead， and is a chronicle of the absurd， the harrowing and the tragic in equal measure。 Here， we meet a cast of colorful characters flitting across the pages: from wordly Israelis and Palestinians trapped in a cycle of politics which has ensnared and Moving， insightful and quirky in equal measure， Guy Delisle's account of a year spent living on the frontier of one of the world's most restive geopolitical hotspots provides glimpses of lives far removed from the ones most readers of this book might lead， and is a chronicle of the absurd， the harrowing and the tragic in equal measure。 Here， we meet a cast of colorful characters flitting across the pages: from wordly Israelis and Palestinians trapped in a cycle of politics which has ensnared and consumed generations before them to matriarchal， cave-dwelling Bedouin tribes menaced by aggressive settlers in the desert frontier; wistful Arabs mourning the loss of a homeland to Jews eager to live in peace， but fearful of the aggression of their Arab neighbours; from fractious and squabbling religious denominations who ought to otherwise serve as the very epitome of harmonious coexistence to intrepid foreign volunteers eager to help alleviate the suffering of people， but perhaps without a clear understanding of the issues plaguing the region; from eccentric， partying and dilettante expats out of touch with ground realities even as they believe they are sent here to make the world a better place to， of course， the wry， bewildered and occasionally flustered observations of a sheltered Canadian finding himself way out of his depth in a strange land that nevertheless reveals hauntingly familiar moral terrain。While at times it might feel like Delisle is pandering to a left-of-centre， anti-Israel crowd （with the Jewish community coming off a little worse for wear）， affecting a kind of feigned ignorance in order to sell a certain kind of book to a certain kind of audience， the detached， curious and irreverent outlook of a naive Canadian traveler ultimately does more to make the ground realities of an ongoing conflict more accessible to a lay reader than the reams of reportage flooding our popular press everyday。 While his observations may not be agreeable to everyone （depending on your politics）， they are exhaustive， even-handed and equally representative of Jewish， Muslim and Christian perspectives， and reveal a mastery of the art of the travelogue narrative。 Despite its light presentation style， make no mistake: this is a heavy， eye-opening work laden with significance， and can shift your understanding of the Israel-Palestine conflict。 。。。more
Zahra Abtahi
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چقدر اطلاعات دستاول کمیابی راجع به فلسطین/اسراییل میده！خیلی خوب بود
Sailee Rane
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What a great find！ Love the way Guy brings out daily life in Jerusalem。 I don’t know much about Jerusalem and much of what I’ve read so far has been about the history。 Guy does a great job of talking about how every day life really looks like for all sides here， while also bringing the historical context to explain why。
char
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An insightful， reflective， and illuminating exploration of life in Israel and Palestine。 I appreciated the balance between light and heavy， and the short vignettes made it all very easy to take in。 Overall this was an extremely useful look into Israeli society and especially how Israeli apartheid oppresses Palestinians。I do however wish he had some kind of editor for the religious content， which was extremely distracting and shed some doubt on the reliability of the rest of his reporting。 When h An insightful， reflective， and illuminating exploration of life in Israel and Palestine。 I appreciated the balance between light and heavy， and the short vignettes made it all very easy to take in。 Overall this was an extremely useful look into Israeli society and especially how Israeli apartheid oppresses Palestinians。I do however wish he had some kind of editor for the religious content， which was extremely distracting and shed some doubt on the reliability of the rest of his reporting。 When he called Passover the Jewish Easter I almost stopped reading！ 。。。more
Howard Lenos
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Really enjoyed the English version of this book by Guy Delisle。 It's a boots-on-the-ground tour of a very complex context。 The book covers the author's experience of spending a year living in Jerusalem。 It gives one an appreciation for the dynamics and the challenges that have culminated in a deeply historical set of conflicts and changes。 Guy is a great tour guide， and the graphics really add to the behind-the-scenes insights of this conflicted city。 Really enjoyed the English version of this book by Guy Delisle。 It's a boots-on-the-ground tour of a very complex context。 The book covers the author's experience of spending a year living in Jerusalem。 It gives one an appreciation for the dynamics and the challenges that have culminated in a deeply historical set of conflicts and changes。 Guy is a great tour guide， and the graphics really add to the behind-the-scenes insights of this conflicted city。 。。。more
Negar
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این کتاب یه سفرنامه است، سفرنامه ای که اطلاعات مختلف از مکان های توریستی و افراد مختلفی که توی فلسطین و مناطق 1948 زندگی میکنن بهتون میده ،مثل دین شون یا آداب مذهبی شون، تضاد های بین افراد توی جامعه فلسطینی و گروه های دیگه ، اون قدر جذابیت داشت که 5 یا 6 ساعته تمومش کردم و کلا امتحان ادبیاتم و فراموش کردم، و اصلا پشیمون نیستم، گی دولیل سعی میکنه که بی طرف باشه ولی خب مگه اصلا یه همچین چیزی درباره مسئله فلسطین ممکنه！؟ اشاره های کمی به مشکلات مردم فسلطین و زندگی های سختشون شده، ولی از جهت دیگه هم این کتاب یه سفرنامه است، سفرنامه ای که اطلاعات مختلف از مکان های توریستی و افراد مختلفی که توی فلسطین و مناطق 1948 زندگی میکنن بهتون میده ،مثل دین شون یا آداب مذهبی شون، تضاد های بین افراد توی جامعه فلسطینی و گروه های دیگه ، اون قدر جذابیت داشت که 5 یا 6 ساعته تمومش کردم و کلا امتحان ادبیاتم و فراموش کردم، و اصلا پشیمون نیستم، گی دولیل سعی میکنه که بی طرف باشه ولی خب مگه اصلا یه همچین چیزی درباره مسئله فلسطین ممکنه！؟ اشاره های کمی به مشکلات مردم فسلطین و زندگی های سختشون شده، ولی از جهت دیگه هم من اطلاعات جدیدی درباره گروه های مختلف مردم توی مناطق اشغال شده و شرایطشون گرفتم، در کل این کتاب سیاستی که در پیش گرفته خیلی بی طرفانه و توصیف زندگی روزمره است ولی خب پر از اطلاعات، خوندنش توصیه میشه！ 。。。more
Melanie Randle
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No me cayó bien el narrador。
Terence
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I learned a lot about Jerusalem and how Palestinians are treated in their homeland。 I'm sad to say the media is less interested in reporting their plight I learned a lot about Jerusalem and how Palestinians are treated in their homeland。 I'm sad to say the media is less interested in reporting their plight 。。。more
Kiki
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I think I was too harsh on Guy Delisle’s comic travelogue when I read Pyongyang and I think it was a disservice to dismiss his aloofness。 I enjoyed his chronicles in Jerusalem， especially where he provided an unbiased and removed observation between the conflict of the three Abrahamic religions。 I’m Greek Orthodox， but from a young age my parents always said to never become too obsessed with one area in life， especially religion。 It can blind you。 Favorite quote: “I swear， when you see the spect I think I was too harsh on Guy Delisle’s comic travelogue when I read Pyongyang and I think it was a disservice to dismiss his aloofness。 I enjoyed his chronicles in Jerusalem， especially where he provided an unbiased and removed observation between the conflict of the three Abrahamic religions。 I’m Greek Orthodox， but from a young age my parents always said to never become too obsessed with one area in life， especially religion。 It can blind you。 Favorite quote: “I swear， when you see the spectacle religion puts on around here， you don’t feel like being a believer。 Thanks， God， for making me an atheist” 。。。more
logolepsyyy
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| 𝐉𝐞𝐫𝐮𝐬𝐚𝐥𝐞𝐦: 𝐂𝐡𝐫𝐨𝐧𝐢𝐜𝐥𝐞𝐬 𝐟𝐫𝐨𝐦 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐇𝐨𝐥𝐲 𝐂𝐢𝐭𝐲 - 𝐍𝐨𝐯𝐞𝐥 𝐛𝐲 𝐆𝐮𝐲 𝐃𝐞𝐥𝐢𝐬𝐥𝐞If you want a completely 𝙪𝙣𝙗𝙞𝙖𝙨𝙚𝙙 𝙋𝙊𝙑 about the situation and the procedures in #Jerusalem and not a one-sided statement， this novel would be a great read because it matches all those categories。The POV of an expatriate whose wife works for #MSF （Doctors Without Borders） and is currently staying in the occupied land by #Israel。 Guy portraited his daily life in Jerusalem to show us complete and honest facts and stories regarding his | 𝐉𝐞𝐫𝐮𝐬𝐚𝐥𝐞𝐦: 𝐂𝐡𝐫𝐨𝐧𝐢𝐜𝐥𝐞𝐬 𝐟𝐫𝐨𝐦 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐇𝐨𝐥𝐲 𝐂𝐢𝐭𝐲 - 𝐍𝐨𝐯𝐞𝐥 𝐛𝐲 𝐆𝐮𝐲 𝐃𝐞𝐥𝐢𝐬𝐥𝐞If you want a completely 𝙪𝙣𝙗𝙞𝙖𝙨𝙚𝙙 𝙋𝙊𝙑 about the situation and the procedures in #Jerusalem and not a one-sided statement， this novel would be a great read because it matches all those categories。The POV of an expatriate whose wife works for #MSF （Doctors Without Borders） and is currently staying in the occupied land by #Israel。 Guy portraited his daily life in Jerusalem to show us complete and honest facts and stories regarding his stay and 𝙣𝙤𝙩 𝙘𝙝𝙤𝙤𝙨𝙚 𝙖𝙣𝙮 𝙨𝙞𝙙𝙚𝙨 because guess what， he is an 𝙖𝙩𝙝𝙚𝙞𝙨𝙩。 He doesn't need to pick any sides to see what's right and what's wrong that's happening there。Guy is a 𝙘𝙤𝙢𝙞𝙘 𝙖𝙧𝙩𝙞𝙨𝙩 who takes care of the kids while his wife is dispatched to many places， especially #Gaza to treat the wounded。 He takes them to school， cooks for them， and spends most of his free time drawing pictures or sceneries。 The typical life of a 𝙝𝙤𝙪𝙨𝙚𝙬𝙞𝙛𝙚 as you may say。While on his time in #TelAviv， he saw the brutal treatment and the lifestyle of civilians living there and continuing their usual chores through this struggle。 This includes the #IOF treatments towards Palestinians， the ways of the settlers， the orthodox Jews， and tourists visiting there。 Guy covered the stories from #Palestinians to #Zionists in this novel， also incidents that happened to him during his stay that he saw with his bare eyes。 The 𝙐𝙉𝙁𝙄𝙇𝙏𝙀𝙍𝙀𝘿， 𝙍𝙀𝘼𝙇 stories about how messed up the government is there and how they treat people whose lands they have occupied， and are extremely unfair and cruel and nobody is doing anything but watch。 Oh and btw， this is happening right now as we 𝙨𝙥𝙚𝙖𝙠。 So think before you come to any judgment。 Know the 𝙩𝙧𝙪𝙩𝙝 and 𝙛𝙖𝙘𝙩𝙨。 Or maybe know about the POV of the person who stayed there and knows the 𝙗𝙧𝙪𝙩𝙖𝙡 𝙩𝙧𝙪𝙩𝙝 behind this 𝙖𝙥𝙖𝙧𝙩𝙝𝙚𝙞𝙙。 BECAUSE SPEAKING AGAINST INJUSTICE IS NOT ANTI-SEMITIC！！ 。。。more
Evelyn Fonseca
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This comic book is not what I had expected。 The author spent 1 whole year in East Jerusalem with his wife who works with Doctors Without Borders and their two children。 In that time he managed to remain unchanged by the experience。 The book is extremely one-sided and biased， showing the sentiments of the Palestinians only， painting them as victims。 He mocks the beliefs of other religions and makes anti-semitic/racist remarks （comparing Jews to monkeys） he is rude and disrespectful toward religio This comic book is not what I had expected。 The author spent 1 whole year in East Jerusalem with his wife who works with Doctors Without Borders and their two children。 In that time he managed to remain unchanged by the experience。 The book is extremely one-sided and biased， showing the sentiments of the Palestinians only， painting them as victims。 He mocks the beliefs of other religions and makes anti-semitic/racist remarks （comparing Jews to monkeys） he is rude and disrespectful toward religious sentiments and traditions。 But what bothers me the most about this book， is that the author seems to be content with his biased ignorance and never questions anything or shows any desire to gain understanding about the conflict。 The drawings are great but unfortunately this book is wasted talent。 Read Aaron's review， he said it best。 。。。more
Cecília Calado
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Desenhos muito leves， apesar da tragédia que está presente em todos os locais representados。 A explicação geral sobre alguns fatos foi interrssante， te instiga a buscar um pouco mais sobre。 É muito interessante， também， acompanhar o dia a dia do quadrinista numa sociedade tão misturada e ao mesmo tempo， tão dividida。 Com certeza lerei os outros quadrinhos que fez， como o de Pyongyang por exemplo。
Susmita
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I picked this up for multiple reasons: the current unrest between Israel and Palestine， a reading slump， and a little bit of nostalgia。Guy Delisle's account is both vivid and varied。 He writes about the inquiry that passengers are subjected to at the Ben Gurion Airport， teaching at universities in Palestine， and visits to all the holy sites。 Having been to several of the places he writes about， his panels transported me back to the streets of East Jerusalem， the narrow lanes of the Old City， an I picked this up for multiple reasons: the current unrest between Israel and Palestine， a reading slump， and a little bit of nostalgia。Guy Delisle's account is both vivid and varied。 He writes about the inquiry that passengers are subjected to at the Ben Gurion Airport， teaching at universities in Palestine， and visits to all the holy sites。 Having been to several of the places he writes about， his panels transported me back to the streets of East Jerusalem， the narrow lanes of the Old City， and ghost town of Hebron。 The graphic novel is a good primer on the Israel-Palestine conflict。 He makes notes about the mundane and atypical aspects of the East Jerusalem life。 However， I do not feel his style of story-telling suits this particular topic。 Palestine by Joe Sacco remains my favourite。 。。。more
Qingzhi
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I really enjoy reading comic books drawn on personal experience。 So hilarious and real。 This book gave me some interesting insights into what real life is like for Palestinians living in the West Bank。
Darryl Wright
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Absolutely fantastic。 Crushingly fair and and honest。
Daniel
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Très étrange d'avoir débuté cette lecture juste avant la reprise des hostilités entre Israël et la Palestine。 Disons que ça aide à comprendre la complexité des rapports territoriaux et religieux。 Guy Delisle a toujours un point de vue aussi juste， sans jamais être complaisant。 Une autre belle réussite de sa part。 Très étrange d'avoir débuté cette lecture juste avant la reprise des hostilités entre Israël et la Palestine。 Disons que ça aide à comprendre la complexité des rapports territoriaux et religieux。 Guy Delisle a toujours un point de vue aussi juste， sans jamais être complaisant。 Une autre belle réussite de sa part。 。。。more
মাহাতাব রশীদ
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a slow burn Graphic Memoir （definitely not a novel）， The most sacred and crucial place on earth in the eye of a stranger。 Delisle's exploration of Palestine/Israel as a comic artist is honest， witty and quite thought-provoking。 a slow burn Graphic Memoir （definitely not a novel）， The most sacred and crucial place on earth in the eye of a stranger。 Delisle's exploration of Palestine/Israel as a comic artist is honest， witty and quite thought-provoking。 。。。more
Deepthi
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Has to be my favorite of the Delisle travelogues until now。 （Completely coincidental that I chose to read this right before the ongoing conflict）
Nikita Patodia
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Insightful ！
Tania Cunha
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É o segundo livro de Guy Delisle que leio。 É um livro extraordinário， onde é retratado o ano que o autor e a família passou em Jerusalém （a sua mulher era dos MAF）。 A capacidade de transmitir a complexidade de todo aquele ambiente é absolutamente incrível。 A ler e reler
Jenny King
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***EUROVISIONATHON 2021 - ISRAEL***This graphic memoir was absolutely amazing， and it is the type of book that I would give to non-fiction/literary fiction readers just to show them what the graphic novel format can do。 This book came up when I initially started researching graphic novels， and I saw the breadth of work that Guy Delisle has done throughout his career， particularly in chronicling his life in really difficult/dangerous countries。 I will admit that my knowledge of the political situ ***EUROVISIONATHON 2021 - ISRAEL***This graphic memoir was absolutely amazing， and it is the type of book that I would give to non-fiction/literary fiction readers just to show them what the graphic novel format can do。 This book came up when I initially started researching graphic novels， and I saw the breadth of work that Guy Delisle has done throughout his career， particularly in chronicling his life in really difficult/dangerous countries。 I will admit that my knowledge of the political situation and conflicts in Israel/Palestine is reasonably sparse， so this was an brilliant choice for me to pick up as a beginner。 The book is basically a memoir of the year that the author spent living in Jerusalem with his partner who works for Doctors Without Borders and their 2 children。 It chronicles his day to day life from the area that he lives， to being the main childcare provider and having to escort his children around， to his various travels around the country and the things be sees。 The book does an amazing job of illustrating the incredibly complex political and religious situation， and it was perfectly done in the graphic form。 Not only do you see the images of the landscape and architecture， but you see the brutal reality of the checkpoints， the poverty （the scene with the children literally playing in garbage）， the soldiers and guns etc。 The illustrations are done in comic strip form and they are pretty simple， but the author does an amazing job of interspersing serious sections with some lighthearted moments。 The book is really easy to get through， and as it is in a diary/vignette format it is really easy to read slowly and just dip in and out if you want to。 Needless to say that I have picked up all of his other memoirs， and I am really looking forward to seeing him in other countries。 。。。more
Esther
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Me encantan estos libros de Guy Delisle！Creo que son una forma estupenda de adentrarse en la complejidad de estos países de una forma muy amena y además， con un toque de humor y crítica。
Slovoskaja
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J'ai beaucoup aimé cette bande dessinée。 L'auteur raconte en images réduites son séjour d'un an à Jérusalem avec sa famille。 Pendant que sa femme travaille pour MSF， il reste à la maison， s'occupe des enfants et dessine pour ce livre。Pendant son séjour， il rencontre des personnes intéressantes et apprend beaucoup sur la culture israélienne et palestinienne。 Il s'intéresse au pays， à son histoire et aux deux peuples qui y vivent presque totalement séparés。Delisle reste toujours dans le rôle d'un J'ai beaucoup aimé cette bande dessinée。 L'auteur raconte en images réduites son séjour d'un an à Jérusalem avec sa famille。 Pendant que sa femme travaille pour MSF， il reste à la maison， s'occupe des enfants et dessine pour ce livre。Pendant son séjour， il rencontre des personnes intéressantes et apprend beaucoup sur la culture israélienne et palestinienne。 Il s'intéresse au pays， à son histoire et aux deux peuples qui y vivent presque totalement séparés。Delisle reste toujours dans le rôle d'un observateur un peu maladroit， décrivant l'oppression du peuple palestinien， l'entrelacement de trois religions， le travail des ONG et sa propre vie familiale à travers les témoignages des autres et ses propres expériences。 。。。more
Neus Gutiérrez
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2。5/5Será que el tema de Israel-Palestina me toca mucho， pero ha habido momentos en que me ha parecido incluso ofensivo como Guy Delisle trataba el tema。 Puedo entender que alguien ajeno a todo esto no sepa nada sobre el conflicto y su historia， pero en el caso de alguien que ha viajado tanto， que va a vivir ahí un tiempo y que su mujer trabaja en una ONG me ha resultado incluso ofensivo。Puedo entender que te preocupen tus quehaceres diarios y limitaciones， pero que se narre con esa tranquilidad 2。5/5Será que el tema de Israel-Palestina me toca mucho， pero ha habido momentos en que me ha parecido incluso ofensivo como Guy Delisle trataba el tema。 Puedo entender que alguien ajeno a todo esto no sepa nada sobre el conflicto y su historia， pero en el caso de alguien que ha viajado tanto， que va a vivir ahí un tiempo y que su mujer trabaja en una ONG me ha resultado incluso ofensivo。Puedo entender que te preocupen tus quehaceres diarios y limitaciones， pero que se narre con esa tranquilidad la situación en Gaza y como parece que lo único que le importa es si tendrá Internet o televisión por cable。 A la misma vez que ni sabe que Jerusalem es la capital santa para las 3 culturas， que se está construyendo un muro， que no hay libertad para cruzarlo， etc。。。 Es que no podía。Más allá de eso， a nivel gráfico y tal， no está mal y conforme pasan las hojas explica más cosas del lugar y sus congéneres y menos tonterías， prejuicios e ignorancias propias。 Eso sí， de los del autor es con diferencia el que menos me ha gustado。 。。。more
Cecilia
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