Elegia dla bidoków

Elegia dla bidoków

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  • Author:J.D. Vance
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Summary

Porażająca, choć niepozbawiona humoru opowieść o dorastaniu w biednym miasteczku w „pasie rdzy”。 To również napisana z uczuciem i zaangażowaniem analiza kultury pogrążonej w kryzysie – kultury białych Amerykanów z klasy robotniczej。 O zmierzchu tej grupy społecznej, od czterdziestu lat ulegającej powolnej degradacji, powiedziano już niejedno。 Nigdy dotąd jednak nie opisano jej z takim żarem, a zwłaszcza – od środka。

Historia Vance’ów zaczyna się w pełnych nadziei latach powojennych。 Ciężką pracą udało im się awansować do klasy średniej, a ukoronowaniem sukcesu stał się J。D。, który jako pierwszy w rodzinie zdobył dyplom wyższej uczelni。 Vance pokazuje jednak, że nie da się uciec od spuścizny przemocy, alkoholizmu, biedy i traum, tak typowych dla rejonu, z którego się wywodzili。

Elegia dla bidoków to aktualne i niepokojące rozważania o tym, że znaczna część Stanów Zjednoczonych straciła wiarę w amerykański sen, co znalazło odzwierciedlenie w wyniku ostatnich wyborów prezydenckich。 To książka, która pokazała Amerykanom z dużych miast, jak mało wiedzą o swoich rodakach, jak mylne mają o nich wyobrażenie。 Ciepła, wyrozumiała narracja Vance’a stała się ważnym głosem w dyskusji o rozwarstwieniu społecznym。 W tym sensie jest to rzecz uniwersalna, rzuca nowe światło na podziały społeczne i polityczne również w Polsce。

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Reviews

Micayla Tatum

He wants us to desperately feel compassion for the white working class, but he simultaneously ignores racism in this country and shows no regard for our experiences。 He coached hatred towards Obama and the racist comments about his nationality and religion as being the result of his elite pedigree as if most presidents in this country haven’t had an elite pedigree。 My family is from Hazard, KY and I picked this book up with such high hopes but UGH!

Marie Baccei

Very slow。 Started reading several times and just couldn't finish。 Very slow。 Started reading several times and just couldn't finish。 。。。more

Austin Sill

Did not finish。 It started out interesting, but once he stopped focusing on his family history and started focusing on himself, it just didn’t feel like there was much of a story。。。 Finally, I just couldn’t stand to listen to the ramblings about poverty with a potent political slant against welfare from someone who actually had a safety net, and is now a venture capitalist espousing the virtues of rugged individualism。。。

Heather Schulz

4。5 - I really enjoyed this book。 I listened to the audio version which was great since you could hear the author's voice。 I'm looking forward to watching the netflix movie。 4。5 - I really enjoyed this book。 I listened to the audio version which was great since you could hear the author's voice。 I'm looking forward to watching the netflix movie。 。。。more

Elaine

A good look into the problems and struggles of a culture that is very different than what we have in the Northeast! Some parts were so sad/disturbing, but he also intersperses humor throughout—makes for a great read。 The tone was conversational and personal and I imagine it took a lot to open up about so much of the hurts in his past。 So thankful for the people in his life who gave him direction and helped him to overcome the obstacles he faced growing up。 He learned a lot through the years, and A good look into the problems and struggles of a culture that is very different than what we have in the Northeast! Some parts were so sad/disturbing, but he also intersperses humor throughout—makes for a great read。 The tone was conversational and personal and I imagine it took a lot to open up about so much of the hurts in his past。 So thankful for the people in his life who gave him direction and helped him to overcome the obstacles he faced growing up。 He learned a lot through the years, and it’s inspiring to see how his life took on a new trajectory。 He addresses the need for change in order to break the cycle of violence and poverty, and believes it’s not through government programs, but through personal responsibility and individual agency, along with support from people around them, responsible parenting, and doing the right thing。A lot of people left reviews commenting about how they hoped this book would explain why this segment of the population voted for Trump and I just have to say, I read this strictly as a memoir and a window into a different world, right here in America。 Whether they are Trump supporters (this was written well before Trump anyway) or whether it makes any sense that they are or not, wasn’t really what I was looking for in this book。 I just felt his life was pretty fascinating。 Notes:-listened as an audiobook-just a warning-there’s quite of bit of cursing, mostly in quotes by other people。 。。。more

Andrew

Having seen the movie adaptation of this book, I thought I knew what to expect as I read this。 And, in a certain sense, the movie is true to the book, but it focuses almost exclusively on the drama of the family dynamics and J。 D。's mother's struggles with addiction。 There is so much more to the book than that。 Vance uses his personal story as a vehicle to explore the nature and causes of poverty among the white working class in America, specifically the Rust Belt and Appalachia。 While his conse Having seen the movie adaptation of this book, I thought I knew what to expect as I read this。 And, in a certain sense, the movie is true to the book, but it focuses almost exclusively on the drama of the family dynamics and J。 D。's mother's struggles with addiction。 There is so much more to the book than that。 Vance uses his personal story as a vehicle to explore the nature and causes of poverty among the white working class in America, specifically the Rust Belt and Appalachia。 While his conservative political beliefs are never far from the surface, they don't dominate the narrative, and he provides some thoughtful insights into the culture of Appalachia and those who trace their origins there。 He readily confesses to recognizing that there may not be any easy answers to the questions he raises, and he clearly struggles with his success in transitioning out of that world of poverty into a more conventionally successful life。 For those who want to understand more about the culture and mindset of the people in the rural mountains of the East, and why they appear to be hopelessly trapped in poverty, this book provides an insiders look at these people and their history, and perhaps sheds some light on the challenges they face。 。。。more

Alison

Really enjoyed the parts about the author's family and childhood, as well as the social commentary on class issues in America。 Lost interest a bit when he got more into his experience in the Marines and at Yale Law, plus some fiscally conservative and religious leanings that just weren't my cup of tea。 Don't regret reading by any means, though。Edit: I just found out that this dude is a giant asshole: https://www。politico。com/news/magazin。。。。 Gonna keep my original 3 star rating since this was wr Really enjoyed the parts about the author's family and childhood, as well as the social commentary on class issues in America。 Lost interest a bit when he got more into his experience in the Marines and at Yale Law, plus some fiscally conservative and religious leanings that just weren't my cup of tea。 Don't regret reading by any means, though。Edit: I just found out that this dude is a giant asshole: https://www。politico。com/news/magazin。。。。 Gonna keep my original 3 star rating since this was written before he apparently sold out for the sake of politics。 。。。more

Stephanie

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An insider's view to the mentality and culture of rural hillbilly life。 Favorite Passages:While reality permits some degree of cynicism, the fact that hillbillies like me are more down about the future than many other groups - some of whom are clearly more destitute than we are - suggests that something else is going on。________But experience can be a difficult teacher, and it taught me that this story of economic insecurity is, at best, incomplete。________"There is nothing lower than the poor s An insider's view to the mentality and culture of rural hillbilly life。 Favorite Passages:While reality permits some degree of cynicism, the fact that hillbillies like me are more down about the future than many other groups - some of whom are clearly more destitute than we are - suggests that something else is going on。________But experience can be a difficult teacher, and it taught me that this story of economic insecurity is, at best, incomplete。________"There is nothing lower than the poor stealing from the poor。 It's hard enough as it is。 We sure as hell don't need to make it even harder on each other。"________Some people may conclude that I come from a clan of lunatics。 But the stories made me feel like hillbilly royalty, because these were classic good-versus-evil stories, and my people were on the right side。________My sister and I still call the old mail carrier "the chicken man," and years later even a mention of how the city government ganged up on the chicken man could inspire Mamaw's trademark vitriol: "Fucking zoning laws。 They can kiss my ruby-red asshole。"________They thought readin', writin', Route 23 would take them to the good life that they had never seen;They didn't know that old highway would lead them to a world of misery________When Papaw passed out on the couch, she'd cut his pants with scissors so they'd burst at the seam when he next sat down。 Or she'd steal his wallet and hide it in the oven just to piss him off。 When he came home from work and demanded fresh dinner, she'd carefully prepare a plate of fresh garbage。________A street that was once the pride of Middletown today serves as a meeting spot for druggies and dealers。 Main Street is now the place you avoid after dark。________I ran to Mamaw's house for some first aid, crying and a little bloody。 She just smiled at me。 "You did good, honey。 You did real good。"________We lived in chaotic life in big groups of aunts, uncles, grandparents, and cousins。 This was the life I'd been given, and I was a pretty happy kid。________They helped me with my homework and spoiled me with treats when I behaved correctly or finished a difficult school assignment。 They were also the gatekeepers。 They were the scariest people I knew - old hillbillies who carried loaded guns in their coat pockets and under their car seats, no matter the occasion。 They kept the monsters at bay。________Living with Mom and Matt was like having a front-row seat to the end of the world。________Working as a cashier turned me into an amateur sociologist。________These are the lies we tell ourselves to solve the cognitive dissonance - the broken connection between the world we see and the values we preach。________I'm not saying ability doesn't matter。 It certainly helps。 But there's something powerful about realizing that you've undersold yourself - that somehow your mind confused lack of effort for inability。 This is why, whenever people ask me what I'd most like to change about the white working class, I say, "The feeling that our choices don't matter。"________Part of the problem is how state laws define the family。 For families like mine - and for many black and Hispanic families - grandparents, cousins, aunts and uncles play an outsize role。。 。 。 。In other words, our country's social services weren't made for hillbilly families, and they often make a bad problem worse。________We never stop loving, and we never lose hope that our loved ones will change。 Rather, we are forced, either by wisdom or by the law, to take the path of self-preservation。________。 。 。 his hope of a "normal life" evaporated long ago, if it ever existed。________These problems were not created by governments or corporations or anyone else。 We created them, and only we can fix them。 。。。more

Colborne

A key insight Vance shared was the information gap he experienced between himself (with his background) and his Yale law school peers (typically from upper-class, educated, etc families)。 He experienced this gap in areas like social norms at meet and greets with law firms, the purpose/significance of opportunities available, what options existed, how to prepare for certain exams, etc。 - his peers typically knew these things (from friends, parents, etc) while he was starting from square one。 It h A key insight Vance shared was the information gap he experienced between himself (with his background) and his Yale law school peers (typically from upper-class, educated, etc families)。 He experienced this gap in areas like social norms at meet and greets with law firms, the purpose/significance of opportunities available, what options existed, how to prepare for certain exams, etc。 - his peers typically knew these things (from friends, parents, etc) while he was starting from square one。 It highlighted the power of networks and leaning on people you know/are connected with (especially for those who are newcomers to a world like law school, etc) to fill in the information gap。Another interesting observation he made was that the hardest part of 'making it' was 'getting in' - getting into law school was the trick and once he was in, he had every opportunity open up to him at his feet。 But 'getting in' is not so easy, especially for people who do not know how。 。。。more

Michelle Dunlap

loved this book。

Todd Smith

I really enjoyed the movie interpretation of this book。。。the book itself, not quite as much。 It is writen as two-parts memoir/social analysis to one-part political agenda。It was interesting to read of Vance's ancestry and experiences growing up in Southern Ohio。 I realized that things I thought were "unique" to my family are actually part of the fabric of the Appalachian, Scots-Irish culture。 His family's history very closely paralleled my own。。。except that my parents fell into the category of h I really enjoyed the movie interpretation of this book。。。the book itself, not quite as much。 It is writen as two-parts memoir/social analysis to one-part political agenda。It was interesting to read of Vance's ancestry and experiences growing up in Southern Ohio。 I realized that things I thought were "unique" to my family are actually part of the fabric of the Appalachian, Scots-Irish culture。 His family's history very closely paralleled my own。。。except that my parents fell into the category of hillbillies who migrated OUT of the South in search of a "better" life (much like that of Vance's Aunt & Uncle)。 But the traits of family loyalty, religious fervor, social structure, keeping family matters "private", and distrust of "outsiders" are all characteristics I have been VERY familiar with my entire life。 In this elegy, Vance gives us an insider's view of the steady, progressive decline of America's White Working-Class。 He addresses how this economic decline has led to social isolation, poverty, drug use, and changes in religious & political viewpoints。 While his story is ultimately one of success and upward mobility ("The American Dream"), Vance is honest about the many times that the only thing that kept him on his course was the love and support of his Mamaw。。。AND how he still carries around the demons of his chaotic childhood。 In the final portion of the book, Vance shares his opinions as to why the people of Appalachia have made such a drastic politial and social swing over the past few decades。 While the opinion and insight is indeed interesting (and to a degree valid), the presentation came across a bit whiny and resentful。 And while one is allowed to present opinions in a memoir however they see fit, this portion of the book left me with a bitter taste in my mouth。 。。。more

Brindi Michele

review to come!!

Gwen Romack

Great writing style, heavy material。

Amy

I think having watched the movie on Netflix first, I already had an idea of what the book was about。The movie was good。 The book was OK。

Colby Brandt

It's hard to say that I didn't like or disagree with his "memoir" because, after all, it's his life。 But the primary problem I find with this work is that his cultural analysis is sloppy。 He takes his anecdotal trauma and applies it en masse to all "hillbillies" (a term he leaves undefined but vaguely means as Southern)。 It was shocking to me that his family actually made more money than mine。 I cannot discount his trauma and that the lessons he learned would not apply to his family, but it is s It's hard to say that I didn't like or disagree with his "memoir" because, after all, it's his life。 But the primary problem I find with this work is that his cultural analysis is sloppy。 He takes his anecdotal trauma and applies it en masse to all "hillbillies" (a term he leaves undefined but vaguely means as Southern)。 It was shocking to me that his family actually made more money than mine。 I cannot discount his trauma and that the lessons he learned would not apply to his family, but it is simply a mistake to take one family and declare that this is hillbilly culture。 I found large portions of this work to be demeaning and insulting, and his glorification of senseless violence is troubling。 And his critique of "costal elites" while simultaneously praising the upper classes was laughable。 And his claim that Jackson, KY was his beloved home despite the fact that he chooses to not live there is astounding。 I mostly regret reading this book。 I have many other thoughts but this I think encapsulates them: read Wendell Berry。 If you want someone who can really write well and can explicate the tenuous relations of culture, work, elitism, family, and faith don't waste your time here。 Instead read Mr。 Berry, a man who has devoted himself unto the cultivation of community and place。 A man who truly loves Kentucky by his virtue of living there and cultivation of land。 (note: I found his explanation of Christian faith to be profoundly troubling, and his insistence that America is a second God sounds like syncretism。) Don't waste your time here。 。。。more

Harper

Sooooo。。。I thought I was really going to enjoy this book because I have so much in common with the author when it comes to how we were raised。 The two stars is for the beginning of the book when simply telling his story。 Once he begins to comment on his childhood he lost me。 He draws far too many conclusions about poor, small town America that stem from the trauma he suffered from his mother。 I genuinely think that therapy would have sufficed rather than a book about pulling yourself up by your Sooooo。。。I thought I was really going to enjoy this book because I have so much in common with the author when it comes to how we were raised。 The two stars is for the beginning of the book when simply telling his story。 Once he begins to comment on his childhood he lost me。 He draws far too many conclusions about poor, small town America that stem from the trauma he suffered from his mother。 I genuinely think that therapy would have sufficed rather than a book about pulling yourself up by your bootstraps。 That being said, the story he shares of his childhood is an important one。 That’s what the two stars are for but that’s about it。 。。。more

Susie

This was an interesting read。。。。the life of a boy grown to a young man in the Appalachians。 His young life was full of all kinds of hardships and family craziness。 This is a memoir, so written by JD Vance who grew up in Kentucky and Ohio。

Emily

AA: a Dave Hunter recommendation from a few years ago。 Interesting listen!

Kevin Walsh

I couldn’t forget that the writer is a graduate of Yale Law while listening to him read his book partly because it’s well researched。 Not surprisingly there’s no bibliography in the audiobook, but I had the feeling that I could look up the studies he mentions which he uses to back up his strongly made arguments。 Of course, I didn’t agree with his conclusions 100%, but I found myself thinking that he got it mostly right。 As for the story of his family and his early years, I found it compelling be I couldn’t forget that the writer is a graduate of Yale Law while listening to him read his book partly because it’s well researched。 Not surprisingly there’s no bibliography in the audiobook, but I had the feeling that I could look up the studies he mentions which he uses to back up his strongly made arguments。 Of course, I didn’t agree with his conclusions 100%, but I found myself thinking that he got it mostly right。 As for the story of his family and his early years, I found it compelling because some of it is relatable, and other parts sound similar to stories I’ve heard from people I’ve known。 The life event episodes do not have a lot of dialogue (in fact he claims not to remember the exact words that started many confrontations), so I don’t expect a word-for-word likeness in the movie。 Overall I was impressed enough to wonder if there’ll be a 10th-anniversary edition or a new forward added to it someday。 。。。more

Nanci Scott

Interesting well-written story about a challenging upbringing and socio-economic culture。

Jamie Jones Hullinger

I prefer to not give star ratings for memoirs because I do not feel right rating another person's story。 I can totally understand why this memoir got the visibility that it did。 I mean from the hills of the poorest parts of Kentucky to Yale graduate? How can that not be fascinating? Only。。。the Yale graduate was born and raised in Middletown Ohio。 Personally, I could not get past that descrepancy and the author's use of his grandparents Appalachian upbringing and struggles as his own。 While those I prefer to not give star ratings for memoirs because I do not feel right rating another person's story。 I can totally understand why this memoir got the visibility that it did。 I mean from the hills of the poorest parts of Kentucky to Yale graduate? How can that not be fascinating? Only。。。the Yale graduate was born and raised in Middletown Ohio。 Personally, I could not get past that descrepancy and the author's use of his grandparents Appalachian upbringing and struggles as his own。 While those struggles did impact him in some ways I felt that he misled the reader and that just did not sit well with me。 。。。more

Fairport Public Library

June 2017, Hema P, Non Fiction

Lacy Montgomery

I wanted this to be something different than it was。 I wanted this to explain rural “Trump country” to me after the presidential election of tr*mp。 This book isn’t that。 It was a fine read but it’s a story i’ve heard or presumed。

Kristina

It was interesting to listen to, feel like it applies to other areas of the country。 I work in a school district that I also grew up in and hear these stories every day。 They seem to becoming more frequent or just more noticeable, I will always be unsure of one or the other。 Almost feel like I could write my own book on the subject, especially after this book。 It a viscous cycle and the author doesn't offer a solution because it hard to break a cycle of insanity。 You think people would learn fro It was interesting to listen to, feel like it applies to other areas of the country。 I work in a school district that I also grew up in and hear these stories every day。 They seem to becoming more frequent or just more noticeable, I will always be unsure of one or the other。 Almost feel like I could write my own book on the subject, especially after this book。 It a viscous cycle and the author doesn't offer a solution because it hard to break a cycle of insanity。 You think people would learn from their mistakes, but it just keeps happening。 Now there could other influences like this author suggests such as abuse whether mental or physical。 Mental abuse is the hardest to target because it a mark you cannot see in the real world。 This brings us to the other cause which is mental health。 Mental health is still taboo subject in this country and not recognised by the public。 With the lack of education in the subject and the constant development it remains ignored。 Don't get me wrong we are slowly coming out of the darkness, another thing I see within schools。 Yet, we still don't fully fund and explore things that each person could be going through。 For those with the blinds on this is a good book to read or in my case listen too。 These stories could be our neighbours, the ones who "try" to lead the "perfect" life with skeletons not only in the closet, but within our families。 。。。more

Joanna

Some of this was interesting, some of it was boring。 Definitely was a bit of a chore to get through for me。

Elise

It’s hard not to compare this book to far superior memoirs such as Educated by Tara Westover and The Glass Castle by Jeanette Walls, or Frank McCourt’s Angela’s Ashes。 One drawback of the text for me was the abundance of unnecessary foul language。 A turn off。 Also, by the time J。D。 gets to college in the book, I was kind of done with it。 I was ready to get on to something else。 This is not how I usually feel about memoirs, one of my favorite genres。 For me, reading/listening to Vance tell about It’s hard not to compare this book to far superior memoirs such as Educated by Tara Westover and The Glass Castle by Jeanette Walls, or Frank McCourt’s Angela’s Ashes。 One drawback of the text for me was the abundance of unnecessary foul language。 A turn off。 Also, by the time J。D。 gets to college in the book, I was kind of done with it。 I was ready to get on to something else。 This is not how I usually feel about memoirs, one of my favorite genres。 For me, reading/listening to Vance tell about his hillbilly upbringing, the terrible abuse as well as drug addiction in his dysfunctional family, and the disadvantages his poor white community accepted as normal was depressing yet educational at the same time。 The author is right; more needs to be done for—better yet, WITH—these impoverished people。 I appreciatedVance’s acknowledgement of many other people outside of his family that influenced him for good and helped guide him to become a “successful” adult。 There was a little too much self-promotion going on by the end of the book。 I also had the feeling that this book was produced to make a lot of money for the author, which it has, but it certainly could have benefited by more editing and maybe better storytelling。 Much better reviews are available for your reading enjoyment。 。。。more

Laura Coelho

o livro é legal e traz várias reflexões sobre a sociedade dos estados unidos q eu nunca tinha pensado antes mas pra ser sincera eu não ligo mt pros estados unidos então não sei pq li ele

Trenten Strook

Spoiler alert:J。D’s mom overdoses on heroin and he gets a call while he’s in the middle of an important meeting about going to Yale and decides to go home to her。 He ends up still getting the opportunity to go to law school and graduates。I personally didn’t have to go through half of the stuff that J。D had to go through with his mom being an addict, growing up poor, or being judged because of where you came from。 So I can’t say that I know how he felt but he did a good job describing in detail t Spoiler alert:J。D’s mom overdoses on heroin and he gets a call while he’s in the middle of an important meeting about going to Yale and decides to go home to her。 He ends up still getting the opportunity to go to law school and graduates。I personally didn’t have to go through half of the stuff that J。D had to go through with his mom being an addict, growing up poor, or being judged because of where you came from。 So I can’t say that I know how he felt but he did a good job describing in detail the stories of his life that make up who he is today。 Throughout the book you can feel how he goes from a shy and quiet person to a more confident student, “I’m not sure what motivated this change。 Part of it is that I stopped being ashamed: My parents’ mistakes were not my fault, so I had no reason to hide them” (Vance 205)。I can relate to the fact that he grew up in a small town out in the country where he was outside most of his life。 But he did do a good job of detailing the struggles he had to face because he came from a “hillbilly state”。 The author makes sure to describe everything he was faced with as a child which made the book more interesting because not a lot of families have to experience the things he went through as a child。 “No person’s childhood gives him or her a perpetual moral get-out-of-jail-free card--not Lindsay, not Aunt Wee, not me, and not Mom” (Vance 72)。 He’s optimistic which is something most people aren’t which shows that he’ll do whatever it takes to achieve his dreams。This book made me think about how different people from different social classes are treated。 Not everyone is treated the same way that I am。 I didn’t think this book would be interesting because it’s an autobiography but I learned that J。D had a very interesting life。 He talks about how he was faced with different choices he had to make and had to consider whether it would benefit him, his family, or his future。 I liked hearing about when he went to college how things he used to do were considered uncustomary to everyone else at Yale, “。。。I took a Yale friend to Cracker Barrel。 In my youth, it was the height of fine dining--my grandma’s and my favorite restaurant。 With Yale friends, it was a greasy public health crisis” (Vance 207)。 This just makes you think about how people change based on who they’re with to try and fit in。 。。。more

Steve Nichols

Quite good。